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good afternoon good evening on the east
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coast
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and good morning in asia welcome to the
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ucla
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asia pacific center's taiwan inner world
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program launch event and the taiwan in
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the world
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lecture series inaugural forum
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my name is minjo professor of sociology
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and asian american studies
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the water and shelley wang in doubt
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chair in u.s china relations
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and communications and director of the
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asia pacific center
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at ucla our center promotes greater
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knowledge and understanding of
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asia and the pacific region on campus
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and in the community
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through innovative research teaching
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public programs
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and local and international
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collaborations
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we encourage interdisciplinary work on
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cross-border and supra-national issues
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such as economy and politics language
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and culture
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population and environment and the
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sustainability in the ongoing processes
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of globalization our center currently
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has a
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taiwan studies program the program on
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central asia
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and the global chinese philanthropy
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initiative
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we are also trying to raise funds to
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establish a hong kong studies program
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and other relevant programs our center
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has recently
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received a gift of two million dollars
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from the taiwan ministry of
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foreign affairs to establish a taiwan in
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the world program
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and a taiwan studies in doubt
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fund to help permanently support taiwan
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studies at ucla
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in today's launch event i would like to
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invite ucla advice provosts
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i'm getting the echo again i would like
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to first
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invite ucla vice provost cindy fun
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to offer welcome remark professor cindy
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is ucla's vice provost for international
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studies and global engagement
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she is the first woman and first asian
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to hold that position as senior
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she manages ucla's international
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partnerships
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and agreements represents ucla globally
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and oversees the 27 interdisciplinary
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research centers and
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eight degree programs within the
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institute professor fung received
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his phd from ohio state university
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and an honorary doctor of laws from the
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university of bristol
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in the uk she has been professor of
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geography
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at ucla since 1989.
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professor funds research focuses on
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and ethnicity in north america and
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china professor fan has published widely
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in these areas
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and has delivered keynotes in
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the u.s europe asia australia and africa
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she was a recipient of ucla's
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distinguished
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teaching award distinguished scholar
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geographers
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and many prestigious fellowships and
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professor fan please go ahead
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thank you so much professor menzel
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it is my distinct honor to welcome you
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on behalf of ucla to this launch event
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for the new and innovative
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taiwan in the world program this program
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will support a new lecture series on
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global context
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also chinese language instruction at
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ucla as well as other academic
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activities on taiwan
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program is
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funded with a very generous gift of u.s
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ministry of foreign affairs without the
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support of the taipei economic and
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office los angeles or taiko this gift
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and this new program would not have been
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so on behalf of ucla i would like to
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sincerely thank
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director general lewis wong and director
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of taco for your tremendous support and
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work
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and it is wonderful to have professor
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frank chen
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a good friend and professor jason wong
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to speak
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at this inaugural forum now
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taiwan in the world is an extremely
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timely and forward-looking vision
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and i'm grateful to the asia pacific
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center led by professor minzo for this
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vision
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ucla's mission as a public research
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university
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is the creation dissemination
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preservation and application of
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for the betterment of the global society
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in other words global and local
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engagement
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is in ucla's dna and
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both the vision of taiwan in the world
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and the long-standing collaboration
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between ucla and taco
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are testament to our commitment to
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global and local engagement
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to me taiko is not just an educational
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but a friend one that is full of great
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very warm and a great pleasure to work
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and i look forward to celebrating with
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taeko in person when we can
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the same qualities full of great ideas
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very warm and a great pleasure to work
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our fearless leader professor minzo so
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thank you very much for your incredible
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leadership and
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big congratulations on this new program
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am grateful to asia pacific center staff
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executive director and erin miller
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assistant director for their tremendous
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effort
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and outstanding work finally i'd like to
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thank the numerous faculty
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including many academicians at ucla who
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are originally from taiwan
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as well as many alumni supporters and
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donors
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who have ties to their ties to taiwan
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for helping to build a momentum toward
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ucla's
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closer collaboration with taiwan
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and i look forward to hearing the
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remarks by director general lewis huang
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as well as a dialogue between professor
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and professor jason wong thank you very
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thank you vice provost fan
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our centers taiwan studies program was
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in 2014 with an
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initial three-year taiwan studies
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or tsl grant from the taiwanese
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i'm sorry from the taiwan ministry of
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through the taipei co economic and
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cultural office in los
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the tsl grant has since renewed twice
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from 2017 to 2020 and again
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from 2020 to 2025.
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the support from the taiwan ministry of
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education has enabled us to grow the
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taiwan studies program
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now this program thrives with other
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sources of support
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including the ucla ntnu
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taiwan studies initiative directed by
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professor sumaishi
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of ucla asian languages and culture
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comparative literature and asian
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as well as endowment and scholarship
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from the jackson young and family
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our taiwan studies program activities
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and graduate fellowship and scholarships
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as well as research
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and travel grants for students and
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faculty doing
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research on and in taiwan these
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activities have fostered
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strong collaborations between ucla
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and taiwan and a growing interest in
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scholarship
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about taiwan at ucla we have also
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emergency assistance for taiwan students
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affected by covet 19. last year
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gift from the taiwan ministry of
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foreign affairs to establish a taiwan in
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the world program
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and a taiwan studies endowment fund at
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the main purpose of the taiwan in the
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world program
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is to expand the production of
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world-class scholarship on taiwan
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in a global context and train a new
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of scholars and professionals to be
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with taiwanese society history and
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culture
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and to be bilingually proficient
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including the ability to read and write
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traditional chinese characters
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the program includes several key
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a lecture series a translation
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initiative
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led by professor michael berry director
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of the ucla center for chinese studies
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curricular development and trans
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and an interactive website
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it is now my great honor to introduce
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mr luis huang who is co-launching
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with me our taiwan in the world program
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mr huang has been director general of
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the taipei economic and cultural office
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in los angeles
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since july 2020 he received his master's
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in public administration from idaho
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state university
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in 1991.
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he joined taiwan ministry of foreign
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affairs since 1990
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as a diplomat serving as deputy director
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general
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in the department of european affairs
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taiwan ministry of foreign affairs
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general of the taipei
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please go ahead
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yes vice provost cindy fan
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director min zhou professor frank chung
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dr jason wong distinguished guests
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ladies and gentlemen good afternoon
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it's my great pleasure to join vice
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provost
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fund and director joe to co-launch the
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taiwan in the world lecture
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series event and its inaugural forum
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as we know ucla is a research university
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with a worldwide reputation over the
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years
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ucoa has cultivated numerous talents for
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taiwan
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the united states and the rest of the
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world
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ucla has also received support
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from governments and private sectors in
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many countries
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that precedes extensive cross
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disciplinary
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research projects my government's
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donation to ucla
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late last year was to set up the taiwan
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in the world program
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and its asia pacific center
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the taiwan in the world lecture series
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is one of the four major projects
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in this program which focuses on
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enhancing the status of taiwan studies
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in the field of social sciences globally
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we hope this program will become a
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benchmark
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for taiwan us cooperation in higher
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education
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and cultivate professional talents with
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global visions for taiwan and the united
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states
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as the topic of today's forum is lessons
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from the pandemic
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taiwan's response to kobe 19 in the
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future
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of global health policy and research i
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would like to
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elaborate on taiwan's efforts that's why
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i have
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our taiwan's formulation bear in the
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background with a surgical mask
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um taiwan
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is a global leader in containing kobe 19
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thanks to its proactive
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government and the public's cooperation
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with the government
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of advisory measures unfortunately
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now with new clusters of variants of the
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virus
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recently recorded asian governments with
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stringent copy 19 majors ranging from
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singapore to vietnam to japan to taiwan
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are now battling the optics in cases
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as diseases no no border the importance
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and
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urgency of a global health and epidemic
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alert system
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stand out in a crisis international
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cooperation
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and acting now are the right smart
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and the only choices we have to end the
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epidemic
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as a responsible international
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stakeholder
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taiwan is making its best efforts to
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work with
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the world health organization and global
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health leaders
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to ensure that all people enjoy living
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and working
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conditions that are conducive to good
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health
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regrettably the public health
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professionalism
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and sense of global responsibility
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taiwan has displayed
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underscored the irrationality of
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taiwan's exclusion
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from the who and its information channel
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due to political objection we urge
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the who and related parties to recognize
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taiwan's
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long-standing contributions to public
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health
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disease prevention and the human right
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to health
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in the international community and to
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include taiwan in the who
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taiwan will continue to work with the
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rest of the world
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to ensure that all enjoy the fundamental
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human rights to health as stipulated
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in the whole constitutes constitution
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thank you
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thank you very much director general
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one of the main components of our
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central
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taiwan studies taiwan in the world
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program
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is um is our lecture series
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the lecture series aims to disseminate
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knowledge about taiwan
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and shed lights on taiwan's political
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economy
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international relations the u.s
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taiwan-china relations as well as
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taiwan's
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economy and society political systems
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social structure
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and institutions in today's inaugural
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forum we will have professor frank chang
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at ucla
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and professor jason huang at jason
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wang at stanford to discuss taiwan's
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successful response to covet 19
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pandemic i now introduce professor
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chang who will then introduce and
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interview
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dr huang and moderate the q and a
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session
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professor frank chang is distinguished
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professor
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and the wind tech chair in electrical
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engineering at ucla his main research
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interests are in high-speed
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semiconductors devices
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integrated circuits for digital analog
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microwave mm wave terahertz
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systems and rf wireless interconnects
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professor zhang received a bachelor's
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degree of
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a bachelor's of science degree in
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physics
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from national taiwan university a
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masters
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of science degree in
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materials science from the national
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xinhua
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university and a phd in electronics
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engineering from the national geotherm
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university
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he is a member of the u.s national
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academy of engineers
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a fellow of the u.s national academy of
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inventors
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and academician of taiwan academia
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cynica
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and a fellow of the institute of
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electrical
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and electronics engineers he has
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received many
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major awards throughout his
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distinguished career
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some of the recent awards include the
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ieee
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david shanov award the jj
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thompson medal and the distinguished
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alumnus award from the national taiwan
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university
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he served as the president of the
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national gelton university in taiwan
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from 2015 to 2019.
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professor chang the floor is yours
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please go ahead
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mingzo can you guys hear me well
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okay thank you yeah uh wonderful
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uh thank you for inviting me and
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professor the uh
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uh jason wong uh who is uh currently
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the faculty on the medicine and the
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patriotic and the director of the center
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for
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policy the outcomes and the prevention
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at the stanford uh university let me
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just
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briefly introduce dr uh wang
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professor uh he's a director center for
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policy outcome
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and uh prevention and uh at the stanford
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prior to coming to stanford
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in 2011 uh he was a faculty member at
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the boston university school of
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medicine and the public health his other
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professional
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experience inc included working as a
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management consultant with
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mckenzie and the company and serving as
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a project manager for taiwan's national
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health
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insurance reform task force his current
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interests included first kobe 19 related
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policies
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second is developing tools for assessing
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and
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improving the value of health scale and
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facilitating the use of a mobile
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technology improving the quality of
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care and the supporting competency
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based medical education curriculum and
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engaging in healthcare
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delivery and payment reforms he's uh
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he's a perfect
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you know the uh in terms of his uh his
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understanding of
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this uh covet related issues and
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in terms of the public policy that the
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government could implement
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to to help ease the uh
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the pain or the uh spreading of the
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covet they are
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welcome the uh profession dr wang
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yeah thank you thank you for accepting
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uh our invitation to
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speak at this unique occasion
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um we do have a couple of
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questions to ask you so
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without further ado do you mind and i i
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started the question one
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well thank you very much professor chang
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it's a it's an honor to
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be invited to this inaugural forum and
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actually i train at ucla as a fellow
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in health services research for five
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years oh i'm sorry
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it's good to be back yes okay thank you
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thank you yeah our first question uh uh
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of course
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uh it has been almost a one and a half
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year
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or 470 some days uh you know since the
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first outbreak of the uh
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covey 19 uh virus uh during this uh
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uh unprecedented time i actually
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traveled twice
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back to taiwan uh for a short period
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during this at this time and i knew how
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much difference
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that i personally experienced in taiwan
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and
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in u.s almost let me feel
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is in the different universe you know in
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terms of the
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uh the status of the infection i was
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very very amazed about how taiwan can
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handle that to
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protect his citizens yeah so
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in in this case uh dr juan you have the
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of course the research on the role
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of the big data analytics and new
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technology and
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proactive testing in taiwan's uh
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successes in preventing the the cope is
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spreading
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as the word begins to emerge from the
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worst
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of the this global pandemic can you
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provide that
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some insight into what led to taiwan's
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uh
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success in the past year yeah well you
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know taiwan's early success
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in containing the pandemic uh i think
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could could be attributed to
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early preparedness and so since sars
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in 2003 uh in 2004 taiwan already set up
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a national health command center
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and that unified uh four different
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centers
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uh the central epidemic command center
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the biological pathogens disasters
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command center
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the counterterrorism command center and
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the central medical emergency operating
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center
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and so they they practice every year on
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these drills
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on pandemics and so i think early uh
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preparedness is one is a key factor the
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other thing is early recognition of the
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crisis
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and so uh in in early january taiwan has
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already recognized that this is going to
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be
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a serious outbreak
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and activated the command center which
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gave government
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special powers including
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basically coordinating all the resources
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for the country and the ability to
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distribute them
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and also
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supported by a clinical disease control
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act
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that's been modified and amended in the
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last 17 years
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yeah thank you uh does the culture on
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the other hand
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like uh uh discipline the people
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who they're willing to take on their
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face mask
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wearing uh seriously and they're taking
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you know the
605
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,279
stress from the mainland china the uh
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seriously have
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anything to do with uh culturewise
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um i believe so um i think taiwan
609
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:07,840
taiwan's culture at least part of it is
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of self-preservation
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and this is a result of hundreds of
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years
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of for example a history of occupation
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00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,320
from the dutch the chinese the japanese
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00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,720
and taiwan was actually under martial
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00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:26,400
law from may 1949
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00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,799
to july 1987 and so during this period
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00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,919
people
619
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:32,480
tried to to
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basically not speak out too much and and
621
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,679
as a result there's a culture of
622
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:38,480
self-preservation
623
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uh the the direct presidential election
624
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,559
happened in 1996
625
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,760
and so since that time people are more
626
00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:47,039
open to speaking up
627
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:49,679
and also to do but i think the culture
628
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:52,559
of self-preservation is still there
629
00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:54,480
there's also a culture of philosophiety
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00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,440
which is the respect and care of the
631
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,279
elders
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00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,559
and so wearing math and protecting
633
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themselves and protecting their
634
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:00,880
grandparents i think it's part of the
635
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culture
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00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,960
particularly if people live in
637
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,520
multi-generational households and they
638
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,440
you know and kids tend to be more
639
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,480
obedient in schools
640
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,240
because of the educational system and in
641
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,400
general i think in in the metro you
642
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,480
could see that people just uh
643
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,919
tend to wear masks to make themselves
644
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,279
and others comfortable
645
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:23,360
and so i think all of this have
646
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:24,400
contributed to the fact that at least
647
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:27,039
initially
648
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,000
uh taiwan i was able to contain the the
649
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,640
spread of the virus
650
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640
very quickly
651
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:37,279
yeah well during the uh possibility
652
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:40,559
in your opinion for the u.s or
653
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:43,120
other countries to adopt and implement
654
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,840
similar type of strategies for example
655
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for instance
656
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,919
through careful planning and digital
657
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:52,559
innovation
658
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:56,559
to combat the spread of the virus
659
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:58,159
why or why not so let me comment on the
660
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,440
digital innovation portion of the
661
00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:03,200
pandemic response
662
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:06,320
so very early on taiwan was able to
663
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,240
send the immigration customs database in
664
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,120
batches to the national health insurance
665
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,320
database
666
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:14,720
so integrated these two data sets uh and
667
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,919
that allows doctors and nurses who are
668
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,919
seeing patients
669
00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:20,000
in a clinic to identify people who would
670
00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:22,559
just travel from abroad
671
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,240
in the last 14 days and so if people
672
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,360
have symptoms particularly if they're
673
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,240
coming from
674
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:30,559
high sort of risk areas they're able to
675
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,279
immediately order tests
676
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:35,120
to make sure that they don't have covet
677
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:38,240
the other thing they did was
678
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:41,520
sort of digitally with cellular
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00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,799
signals cellular phones then uh you know
680
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,760
i don't know if people remember the
681
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,760
diamond princess
682
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:48,960
and so the diamond princess actually
683
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,000
attacked
684
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:56,240
in uh g-long which is about an hour
685
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,200
from taipei and and about 3 000 people
686
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,159
came
687
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,559
into the greater taipei area for a day
688
00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:04,400
and this was before they left for japan
689
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:06,000
and so during that period they visited
690
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,720
50 places and the government
691
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,600
was able to send cellular signals to the
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00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,240
people who were
693
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,559
around those 50 places during the day
694
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,880
that the diamond prince's passengers
695
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:18,720
disembarked and that allowed us to get
696
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,720
tested
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00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,919
for the virus and so they did use
698
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,480
technology now
699
00:27:21,919 --> 00:27:26,240
in in the uk you ask about western
700
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,039
societies whether they're able to do
701
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960
that
702
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:31,039
in the uk uh they have implemented
703
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,279
digital contact tracing so actually
704
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:36,159
digital exposure notification
705
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:38,240
with the google apple exposure
706
00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:41,520
notification system
707
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,399
and uh they have gotten 50
708
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,880
of all the eligible people 16 and above
709
00:27:44,399 --> 00:27:47,679
to
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00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,559
download it and the data published in
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00:27:47,679 --> 00:27:52,080
nature
712
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:52,880
have shown that uh for every one percent
713
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,240
uptake
714
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:59,200
in uh in this app there's a 0.8
715
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,840
decrease in cases and so extremely
716
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,240
effective
717
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,200
and so even in western societies this
718
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,200
could be done
719
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,360
now there's a caveat to this which is
720
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,240
that the the uk app
721
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:11,440
allows people to decide whether to test
722
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,279
it positive to
723
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,039
whether they want to let the other
724
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,240
context know so this is based on
725
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,640
bluetooth technology
726
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,520
and most people did like 70 80 percent
727
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,360
of people
728
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,279
uh decided that they want to share that
729
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,120
information anonymously
730
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,399
so without knowing who they are they
731
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:30,320
share it with the server
732
00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:32,480
and then the server manager yeah
733
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,600
yeah my personal experience though i was
734
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,039
attracted
735
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,840
you know once i the uh i arrived at the
736
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:40,559
airport you know d.a because i already
737
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,520
submitted
738
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:44,000
my cell phone number so from that moment
739
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,600
all the way
740
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:50,159
to the uh quarantine place and uh
741
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,840
every day after that i will receive the
742
00:28:50,159 --> 00:28:53,600
two phone calls
743
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,360
one is from the central government
744
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,200
agency and the other one is
745
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:01,039
from the local city you know the uh the
746
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,279
agency you know very interesting one is
747
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:06,240
the morning and the one in the afternoon
748
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:07,360
uh to greet me and even uh send me the
749
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,840
gift
750
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,000
and the thermometer and all kinds of
751
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,360
foods
752
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,480
and and also send me the uh tv programs
753
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,360
for free
754
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,080
i can just watching the free tv so
755
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,240
everything
756
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:27,120
is is organized and coordinated so well
757
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,200
that i i have a free viewing of the tv
758
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,080
program for the next uh you know the
759
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,039
actually the 15 days uh rather than uh
760
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,159
two weeks
761
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:38,240
yeah at the quantum period yeah and uh i
762
00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:39,279
i personally i feel that that is a
763
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,159
totally uh
764
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:43,039
different from the fact that i uh i have
765
00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:46,080
experienced it
766
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:47,360
here in the uh southern california yeah
767
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,679
i i wish
768
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,279
you know that that people could be
769
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:55,039
tracked so well so
770
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:57,600
the precisely and uh preventing the uh
771
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,320
the uh the further spread from if there
772
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,600
is any
773
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,399
uh the uh possibility of that yeah
774
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,919
yeah thank you for your comment uh my
775
00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:09,120
second question is
776
00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:12,320
as the director of the center for policy
777
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,399
outcomes and the prevention etc you have
778
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,720
been involved in policy
779
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:17,760
in terms of improving health scale
780
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,320
system
781
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,200
including developing the taiwan's
782
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360
national
783
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,799
health insurance program that's
784
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,240
wonderful that you have
785
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:30,880
helped the taiwan what does the sum of
786
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:35,120
the health scale policies in taiwan that
787
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:38,320
aided uh in its response to kobe 19
788
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,279
prevention so let me just clarify i i i
789
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,679
helped to
790
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:42,480
reform the system i did not help to
791
00:30:41,679 --> 00:30:44,720
develop it
792
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,000
and so i was involved in the healthcare
793
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,520
reform yeah
794
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,559
and and so i think part of the the
795
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,000
innovations in the taiwan health system
796
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,320
is this data
797
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,200
and so uh so it's a national health
798
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,720
insurance
799
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:04,080
program and everybody's covered 99
800
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:06,480
of the people are covered and
801
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,440
uh and the payment uh to the insurance
802
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,440
is based on
803
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,799
uh your ability to pay so it's a
804
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,600
progressive system where
805
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:14,640
rich people pay more uh and if you are
806
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,360
poor then you
807
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,000
you don't pay and then so it's based on
808
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,519
your payroll
809
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:24,559
tax and recently they have integrated
810
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:26,799
the electronic records of everybody
811
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:28,320
so that if you are a doctor seeing a
812
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:31,919
patient in your clinic
813
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,399
you could look up uh the the basic uh
814
00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:35,679
uh medical records including sort of the
815
00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:37,760
problem list and the
816
00:31:35,679 --> 00:31:38,960
the medications that the patients take
817
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,519
in uh from
818
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,640
other uh from other clinics or other
819
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:46,159
hospitals so that
820
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,840
has been synchronized that way
821
00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:50,080
the other thing that they have done is
822
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:54,320
uh some of the imaging
823
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:56,559
could not be shared for big data ai
824
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,240
analytics you know sort of machine
825
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,679
learning analytics and so that's also
826
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,000
very innovative
827
00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:04,000
the part that helped taiwan this time is
828
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,120
the ability to use these data
829
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,240
integrated data to respond quickly to a
830
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,360
crisis
831
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,799
and i think that u.s could adopt similar
832
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,440
policies
833
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:16,880
currently our data in the u.s are very
834
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,519
fragmented
835
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,440
uh and uh give you an example i just
836
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:21,919
received a text message from mass
837
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,399
general
838
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:26,320
telling me to get my covet shot but i
839
00:32:24,399 --> 00:32:28,399
left boston 10 years ago
840
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,159
and so you know in the u.s we often
841
00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:31,919
don't know who our patients are
842
00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:33,600
because patients could actually change
843
00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:35,440
insurance every year
844
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,519
and then insurance could actually
845
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,720
contract with different providers
846
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:42,640
every year and so uh the data is are
847
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,200
very fragmented
848
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,240
and so going forward uh there is an
849
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,000
opportunity
850
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:53,440
actually to offer for example
851
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:56,080
a more uh integrated data
852
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,000
through medic through medicare so
853
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,679
everyone in the u.s eventually
854
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,240
will be in medicare so actually one idea
855
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:05,360
is to offer medicare early because it's
856
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,559
a fertile
857
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,880
program where everybody trusts and you
858
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,679
could actually offer a medicare as a
859
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,720
choice
860
00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:15,760
as an option uh you could also pick your
861
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,760
current insurer
862
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,840
but i think medicare could be over as a
863
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,480
choice and then you could build
864
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,000
the integrated data from there but there
865
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,399
are lots of ideas being flown
866
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,559
around in congress right now and i hope
867
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:30,960
that we will make movements in in
868
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:33,279
integration of at least health data so
869
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:37,120
that when there's a public health crisis
870
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:39,039
that we could respond quicker
871
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,279
yeah thank you for you coming actually
872
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:44,000
after uh 36 years
873
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:44,559
working in u.s i returned to taiwan
874
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,679
about
875
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:50,799
five years ago and serving as a national
876
00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:52,880
gelaton pr the university's president
877
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:54,399
uh during that period of time of course
878
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,480
i went to see
879
00:33:54,399 --> 00:34:01,760
my local doctors there uh a few times
880
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:05,600
i was so amazed uh one thing is
881
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:08,480
i i had this eye viewing problem in
882
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,560
one side of the glaucoma issue yeah and
883
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:14,000
i was amazed at how little
884
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,399
uh the the you know go through the uh
885
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,679
all the examinations and taking medicine
886
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:20,560
and seeing the doctors
887
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:22,720
with all the fancy equipment you know i
888
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,119
received the uh the uh
889
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:26,639
event finally i have to pay i find that
890
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:30,240
like 300 the
891
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:32,399
taiwanese yen you know and i i look at
892
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:35,040
i just could not believe that number you
893
00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:35,679
know because i i should see a 300 us
894
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,679
dollars
895
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,800
at least probably if another three
896
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,159
thousand
897
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,200
so so that was really amazing um so as
898
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:46,720
an expert
899
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:49,520
of the policy and the national insurance
900
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:51,520
system programs would you re make any
901
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,560
recommendation to the us
902
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,320
if you could to adopt similar policies
903
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,200
and what will be the difficulties and
904
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,920
challenges
905
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,599
for the us to do so in the national
906
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,760
program
907
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,839
i think every country is a little bit
908
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,440
different the the fact that
909
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:13,200
taiwan's uh national health insurance
910
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:16,160
so far it's it's been
911
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,640
providing all the care but in a very low
912
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,200
price
913
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,000
i think it's both heavily subsidized by
914
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,119
industry
915
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,880
and by the government and and so uh
916
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:26,160
personal out-of-pocket payments are
917
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,320
relatively low
918
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,200
if you are and everyone is insured and
919
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,000
so there's
920
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,160
there's no uh issue of cherry picking uh
921
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,280
patience or adverse selection from
922
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,160
insurers
923
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,200
and so in a way that's the positive part
924
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,680
the negative part
925
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,680
is that you have one insurer so there's
926
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,880
no competition at the insurance
927
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:50,480
level and so you ought to compete at the
928
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:53,040
provider level for quality of healthcare
929
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,200
and so you know that's one one way to to
930
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,520
compete because competition is good
931
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,839
to bring up standards to bring up the
932
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,320
quality of healthcare
933
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:03,280
one of the things that that i think the
934
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,920
us
935
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,359
could perhaps use this opportunity with
936
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,760
other countries
937
00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:12,160
uh other governments is to set up a
938
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,720
health passport system
939
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,880
in that uh right now you know we are in
940
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:20,000
a crisis but crisis
941
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:24,240
uh in mandarin also means uh
942
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:27,359
uh danger and opportunity together
943
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:28,560
right an opportunity and so we have this
944
00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:31,839
opportunity now
945
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:35,680
to at least put some basic data such as
946
00:36:31,839 --> 00:36:38,000
um we could start with testing data
947
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,520
whether somebody's positive or negative
948
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,040
you know when you travel internationally
949
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,800
you need that
950
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,480
sometimes when you go to school you need
951
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,000
that uh
952
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,680
people want to know if you if you're
953
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,839
testing results and we have we could do
954
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,400
it electronically
955
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:54,480
and then also your vaccine data whether
956
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,880
you've been vaccinated
957
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,960
or not and then you should we could
958
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,720
build a very basic
959
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:04,880
uh health passport and perhaps
960
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,480
uh if people feel comfortable then we
961
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,320
could add on to it but
962
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:12,640
you know america is americans are very
963
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,760
serious about privacy issues
964
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,839
that americans do not want uh people to
965
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,160
uh the government particularly to
966
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:21,839
collect all their data
967
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,320
and so we have to respect people's
968
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:26,720
privacy and we have to guard
969
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,880
with confidentiality and we have to
970
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:30,720
respect people's autonomy
971
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,880
absolutely all these things that are
972
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:35,280
necessary for the program to move
973
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,839
forward
974
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,040
okay uh as a researcher and
975
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:41,440
administrator
976
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,200
myself i actually aware of the
977
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,200
importance of the research
978
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,040
collaborations uh
979
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,400
as well as the international academic
980
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,079
exchange
981
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:55,200
uh what are the some of the steps
982
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:58,000
that government and ngu's including
983
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,720
universities like ours can take to
984
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,839
foster
985
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,640
improvement in the health scale globally
986
00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:05,520
especially
987
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,000
in response to the threats such as the
988
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,400
current
989
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,800
covenanting pandemic in your view yeah
990
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,000
yeah you know i think governments and
991
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,520
universities
992
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,839
we play will play different roles
993
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,640
i think governments ought to be in
994
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:25,040
charge of resource
995
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,560
gathering resources and distribute them
996
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,880
equitably
997
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,000
whether someone is rich or poor you
998
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,480
ought to be able to
999
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,640
give them masks you know you'll be able
1000
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,680
to offer them vaccination
1001
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,760
and so that's the government's role
1002
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,960
university's role is to advance the
1003
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,800
science
1004
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,880
and so uh so basically for example in
1005
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,400
covet we found that
1006
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,000
particularly in the uk their
1007
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,520
universities work
1008
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,079
very closely with the governments to
1009
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:57,280
sequence the new strains of the
1010
00:38:54,079 --> 00:39:00,240
covet virus sars cov2
1011
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,920
virus so they sequence it very quickly
1012
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,839
in the u.s
1013
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,599
that collaboration with our universities
1014
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:07,920
is a little bit slower so
1015
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,760
when there's a new strain of the the
1016
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,079
sars cove 2
1017
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,079
coming into the u.s we are slower in
1018
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:17,119
responding to this new threat
1019
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:20,400
and so i think again
1020
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:21,520
governments should work very closely uh
1021
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,040
with the universities
1022
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:29,040
and also with ngos who you know offer
1023
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:32,160
services to the under served
1024
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:36,240
minority populations that are often
1025
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:39,920
most impacted by epidemic
1026
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:42,320
thank you thank you dr another area of
1027
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,839
your research has focus on the medical
1028
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,040
education to
1029
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:49,440
improve the health outcome uh here in
1030
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,560
our university our medical school
1031
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,520
actually
1032
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,320
has hosted a translational oncology
1033
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,960
program
1034
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,640
the top with a fellowship for medical
1035
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,359
students from taiwan
1036
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,040
to share our best practices uh in
1037
00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:04,240
training the next generation of the
1038
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,960
health care
1039
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:08,000
uh providers globally we're also
1040
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,960
collaborating with
1041
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,920
tsujang university and the other major
1042
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,560
universities
1043
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,920
in the uh mainland china for training
1044
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,119
graduate students and
1045
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,760
health skilled professionals so in that
1046
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:22,839
can you comment on the needs and also
1047
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,520
the
1048
00:40:22,839 --> 00:40:27,839
practicalities of developing a public
1049
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,200
health or medical training curriculum
1050
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:32,960
that can be shared
1051
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,000
and delivered across borders and yes i
1052
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,960
think you know
1053
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,079
we're in a very exciting time in
1054
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,920
medicine
1055
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:42,480
uh we have the entire human genome
1056
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,160
sequence and we're beginning to really
1057
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,839
understand the epigenomic
1058
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:50,960
impact um gene expression uh on
1059
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:52,800
the the causes of disease and so
1060
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,280
uh for example in taiwan there's a
1061
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,599
taiwan precision medicine initiative
1062
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,280
to sequence uh one million people in
1063
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,160
taiwan and that's quite a bit because
1064
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,440
taiwan only has
1065
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:06,800
uh 23 million people and so
1066
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,680
uh and there's there are opportunities
1067
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,240
to
1068
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,560
uh understand uh sort of the the
1069
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:15,599
background the genetic backgrounds of
1070
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:19,119
of uh people in taiwan which
1071
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:20,160
uh you know it's a microcosm i think of
1072
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:25,200
of
1073
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:28,000
the chinese ancestry plus the polynesian
1074
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:30,160
background in that's common in all the
1075
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,200
polynesian countries from the mothers
1076
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,839
mitochondrial dna and also from other
1077
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,480
races
1078
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:38,319
there are some also uh dutch background
1079
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,400
people with dutch backgrounds so
1080
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:42,240
it's it's going to be very interesting
1081
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,119
in in having that
1082
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,920
database to try to understand uh the
1083
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,880
differences
1084
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,200
in cancer particularly for your program
1085
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,240
the translational oncology program
1086
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,880
you know sort of backgrounds and
1087
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:58,480
genes and gene expressions will have a
1088
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,720
differential impact
1089
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:05,440
on the incidence of cancer
1090
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:07,440
we always talk about sort of in terms of
1091
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,640
translational science
1092
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,839
from from the bench to the bedside
1093
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:17,040
and then from evidence to practice
1094
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:20,079
and so uh this entire spectrum
1095
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,680
of bench to the bedside and also from
1096
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,680
evidence to practice
1097
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,720
there are lots of opportunities to
1098
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:29,839
collaborate across the pacific
1099
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:31,520
in terms of both in terms of talent you
1100
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:32,800
could have think of it as a talent
1101
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,000
circulation
1102
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:39,760
both in terms of resources and
1103
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,200
materials and and and strategies to
1104
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,680
better understand
1105
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,400
uh you know the different contribution
1106
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:50,240
of different racial ethnic backgrounds
1107
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,839
uh on disease and so i believe there are
1108
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:55,440
lots of opportunities
1109
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:57,760
there yes yeah thank you thank you for
1110
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,040
you answer all the questions but right
1111
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,440
away
1112
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,359
before entering officially entering q a
1113
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:06,400
session already got the two questions
1114
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:09,680
from the floor so uh
1115
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,640
let's uh start to to look at those
1116
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,000
i guess the first question for professor
1117
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,319
wang will be
1118
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,680
please elaborate more on the taiwan's
1119
00:43:16,319 --> 00:43:21,359
national health
1120
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:24,160
coverage system yeah our overseas
1121
00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:25,359
taiwanese and the foreigners have uh in
1122
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,640
any way to get
1123
00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:32,000
access to care at a similarly low
1124
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:35,440
cost to take advantage of that yeah
1125
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,000
yeah so overseas taiwanese uh uh
1126
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,440
people if you if you enter taiwan and
1127
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,480
you know you have
1128
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,000
uh previously had uh let's say if you
1129
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,839
were born in taiwan you will have
1130
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,319
you know previous household registration
1131
00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:50,160
in taiwan you could activate that but it
1132
00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:51,200
would take six months to activate your
1133
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,200
insurance
1134
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,319
however if you pay for your care
1135
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:59,440
entirely in cash out of pocket is still
1136
00:43:56,319 --> 00:43:59,760
very very inexpensive it's probably you
1137
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,760
know
1138
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,280
less than one tenth of what you will pay
1139
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,599
in the united states
1140
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,680
and so and similarly for foreigners if
1141
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:10,079
you work in taiwan you could join the
1142
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,160
national health insurance program
1143
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:13,200
and but if you just travel there for
1144
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,079
pleasure uh
1145
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,599
then no then you're probably going to
1146
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:19,839
end up paying out of pocket which is
1147
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:23,359
still very inexpensive
1148
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:26,079
yeah probably 30 to one yeah you
1149
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:26,800
you pay the amount you know the uh looks
1150
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,640
like a
1151
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,640
in u.s dollars it would be tremendous
1152
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,319
but you can divide that out
1153
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:38,000
30 by 30 to to get the actual
1154
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:38,560
idea of that cost yeah so the second
1155
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,839
question
1156
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,800
um a little bit more sensitive okay uh
1157
00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:46,720
there has been some rising
1158
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:49,760
anti-asian anti-chinese sentiment and
1159
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:52,800
violence in u.s since the breakout that
1160
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,720
we are all aware of that yeah so was
1161
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there any uh similar the uh
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escape the ghost uh goat team via
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going on in in taiwan i don't think so
1164
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i i don't think they're they're
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skateboarding i think people are just
1166
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afraid
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uh to be in contact with with people
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with covet but just because they don't
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know how dangerous
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it is or how to take care of them but i
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don't think they are scapegoating i
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spent uh the last six months in taiwan
1173
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on my sabbatical
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um so uh definitely uh
1175
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:30,240
i don't think there are any sort of um
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00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:33,520
scapegoating going yeah
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00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:34,720
okay thank you yeah that that is uh very
1178
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,000
consistent uh with
1179
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:40,960
what i have experienced yeah i i i
1180
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,920
never actually heard anything like that
1181
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but uh
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of course uh people all human being like
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like you know that they express their
1184
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,680
concerns that is for sure
1185
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,720
for everyone yeah so another question
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00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,280
from the floor is that
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00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,160
could you please explain why very
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00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,200
recently
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00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:02,160
there has been a a more
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higher uh the increase in the in terms
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00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:08,079
of number of the kovid 19 case in taiwan
1192
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,960
uh yes um so recently there's been a
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00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:12,319
surge
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of domestic outbreak uh of of covet
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00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:16,160
in taiwan and that is attributed to uh
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two things
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one is that uh the the strain that's uh
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currently infecting uh or spreading very
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00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,800
quickly is
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00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,560
b117 which is the uk strain and uk
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00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,680
strain has been known to spread very
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00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,880
quickly
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00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:36,480
and in this particular case that uh
1204
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:39,599
the uh current team period for pilots
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00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:43,119
and crew has been relaxed uh from
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00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:46,079
you know 14 days to three days and so
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00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:46,640
but the you know incubation period for
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00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,839
the
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00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,599
the virus and the the latency period the
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00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:54,800
legacy period is the period where
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uh between when you get exposed to the
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00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,560
virus until when you become
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00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,520
infectious you know it's three to five
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00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,000
days
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00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,200
and so uh so when you release people at
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00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,920
three days
1217
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,280
uh that's when they gonna be starting to
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00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,359
spread
1219
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and the incubation period is when you
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00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:12,800
have symptoms
1221
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,400
but in this case a lot of people with
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00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,760
cover has no symptoms
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00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,520
and so 40 of the people infected with
1224
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,960
covet has no symptoms so
1225
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,440
you don't know if they have covets or
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00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,480
they start spreading
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00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,559
and so in this in this case um
1228
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,599
it's quite unfortunate because the
1229
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:31,839
pilots uh
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00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:33,119
they they are constantly under
1231
00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:36,160
quarantine
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00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:37,200
so the crew and so you know they they
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00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,680
relax it for
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00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,880
to improve their mental health basically
1235
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,480
otherwise they will
1236
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,160
constantly be either you know doing
1237
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,800
their work or being
1238
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,760
you know in quarantine but in this case
1239
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,839
um
1240
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,920
i think that they should have thought
1241
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:54,400
more carefully before they relax that to
1242
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,400
three days
1243
00:47:54,559 --> 00:48:00,880
yeah there's another uh question
1244
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:04,319
is on the more the uh general the
1245
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,960
directions just the uh the techniques
1246
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:08,000
that we learn or policy that we learned
1247
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,960
from the zakov
1248
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,760
prevention would that be also be uh
1249
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,640
useful and
1250
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,040
instrumental into the future to prevent
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00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,240
of
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00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,200
other things other diseases you know
1253
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:22,400
like
1254
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,640
uh sars or other well of course this is
1255
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,040
a
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00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,760
source number two i mean the previous
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00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,000
stars or
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00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:32,960
other uh the uh infectious the uh
1259
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,040
diseases uh in general you know what
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00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,200
what would be the comment for
1261
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,079
uh for the things that we learned for
1262
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,200
human to learn
1263
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:42,160
here uh to the uh prevent the more
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00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,720
serious the
1265
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,680
disease into the future yeah well i
1266
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,760
think a lot of
1267
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,520
a lot of things has been learned uh in
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00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,559
the in the last year and a half and so
1269
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,000
for one
1270
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:56,480
we learn to collaborate uh
1271
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,040
that's right yeah and across industries
1272
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,480
uh
1273
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:02,640
basically uh in terms of in many sectors
1274
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,480
so in education we learn to do
1275
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:08,880
education online in healthcare we need
1276
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:11,680
them to do telehealth
1277
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,559
we learn to produce an effective vaccine
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00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,960
very quickly
1279
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:15,760
within months and that's unprecedented
1280
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,920
because
1281
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,000
previously the shortest period for
1282
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,280
producing a vaccine was four years for
1283
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,520
months
1284
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,559
and it usually takes ten years to
1285
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,839
produce a vaccine
1286
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:30,000
in this case it took months and that's
1287
00:49:28,839 --> 00:49:31,280
because
1288
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,280
that's because of international
1289
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:36,319
collaboration with both the
1290
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,000
the at the bench and also during
1291
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:40,640
clinical trials
1292
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,040
across the globe in multiple countries
1293
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,040
where there are disease outbreaks and so
1294
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,200
we need to do that we learn to produce
1295
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,119
respirators very quickly
1296
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400
and invent new ways of creating
1297
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:52,480
respirators
1298
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,280
and so there are a lot of positives that
1299
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:58,319
have come out of this crisis
1300
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,359
and certainly we learned that you know
1301
00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:01,440
when you don't know
1302
00:49:59,359 --> 00:50:03,599
what's going to happen you need to be a
1303
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,880
little bit more cautious
1304
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:09,520
so not every infection is just a flu
1305
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,599
so you need to be very cautious and it's
1306
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:16,079
better to be more conservative
1307
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:19,359
than in the beginning
1308
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:21,040
thank you thank you because of the time
1309
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:23,680
constrained
1310
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,160
that we we just have to close the
1311
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,400
session
1312
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,760
soon but uh before we do that i would
1313
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,280
like to pass my
1314
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:34,240
button to uh to director mingzhou and uh
1315
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,119
you probably like to to say something uh
1316
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:37,359
to the
1317
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:38,319
to the audience and uh to every one of
1318
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:41,200
us yeah
1319
00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:43,680
thank you thank you again uh jason well
1320
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,920
for your the uh outstanding the uh talk
1321
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,119
and that we really learned and enjoyed
1322
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,280
the interaction
1323
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:50,880
with you a lot thank you very much hope
1324
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,599
looking forward to seeing you more
1325
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,040
on campus yeah thank you very much thank
1326
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:58,079
you very much
1327
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:01,119
professor wang and thank you very much
1328
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:04,480
professor chang for this insightful
1329
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:06,800
interesting and informative discussion
1330
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,760
again i'm deeply grateful for the
1331
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:12,000
generous gift from the taiwan ministry
1332
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,119
of foreign affairs
1333
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,000
and the tremendous support we received
1334
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:19,599
from
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00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,280
tico in los angeles we thank director
1336
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:25,200
general huang
1337
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:30,720
and his staff at tico la particularly
1338
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:33,839
david lynn david chen and rebecca lan
1339
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:37,119
i also thank vice provost cindy fun
1340
00:51:33,839 --> 00:51:40,960
for her leadership and support for our
1341
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:43,760
center and thank our center's
1342
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,839
staff executive director elizabeth
1343
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,400
lester
1344
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:50,000
assistant director erin miller and
1345
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:54,000
student assistant
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00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:57,680
lauren lip thank you all for coming
1347
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:00,319
and please watch out our center's news
1348
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,200
and event announcement and i hope to see
1349
00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:04,720
you
1350
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:07,760
again in our future event thank you
1351
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:11,200
good evening and good morning thank you
1352
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:14,559
so much bye-bye
1353
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:17,359
yeah thank you doctor
1354
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:17,359
thank you