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good afternoon my name is Ali bedded and

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I'm the director of the Center for Near

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Eastern Studies at UCLA and on behalf of

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my colleagues I would like to welcome

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you to this forum on remote research it

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is difficult to recall a time when doing

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research in the Middle East has been

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more challenging whether as a result of

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the corona virus epidemic officially

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sanctioned restrictions on research or

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political violence in light of these

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challenges we at the Center for Near

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Eastern Studies have organized this

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two-part forum for scholars and students

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who need or wish to undertake research

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on Middle Eastern topics in various

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field of humanities and Social Sciences

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at least in the near future I'm pleased

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to introduce two distinguished scholars

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and librarians in this panel who will

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share the knowledge of online resources

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and offer advice for doing research

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during these challenging times our first

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speaker is Jeanne Danielson who is the

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director of libraries at New York

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University's Abu Dhabi campus she

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previously served as the Richard French

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librarian of low music library at

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Harvard University and the curator the

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university's archive of world music she

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holds a PhD at the musicology from the

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University of Illinois at

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urbana-champaign

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dr. Danielson is the author of the

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award-winning monograph the voice of

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Egypt uma consume Arabic song and

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Egyptian society in the 20th century

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which was published by University of

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Chicago Press in 1997 and co-editor of

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the middle east of the garland

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encyclopedia of world music which was

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published by Routledge in 2002 she has

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worked extensively on producing digital

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resources for scholarly use and in her

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current incarnation and she's in a

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principal investigator of the Arabic

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collection online a collaborative

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digital book project our second speaker

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is Robin Doherty who is the curator for

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the Near Eastern collect

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she has a BA on Oriental Studies from

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the University of Pennsylvania and MA in

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Arabic studies from Georgetown

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University's and a master of information

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library studies from the University of

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Michigan

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she has most recently served as the

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Middle Eastern Studies librarian of the

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University of Texas in Austin and has

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held library posts at the American

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University in Cairo Oxford University

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the Library of Congress and the

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University of Pennsylvania she has an

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extensive record of publication

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leadership in her field and the ability

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to work with Arabic Persian and Turkish

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material has made her an incredible

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resource for Middle Eastern research she

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has also studied ancient Egyptian and

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Coptic dr. Danielson dr. Doherty will

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each speak for about 20 minutes followed

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by a question-and-answer please join me

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in welcoming them thank you dr. Ali I

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should add one thing to my resume which

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is that I'm recently retired so I'm

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which is which has been a wonderful

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thing for me to be able to get back to

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some work some writing that I really

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wanted to do but I also have learned

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that I've been successfully replaced

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which is perhaps a good lesson for all

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of us so I'm going to I'm going to share

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my screen with you all right I hope

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you're looking at the name Arabic

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collections online this is a project

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that as dr. Ali said I've been involved

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with as a co-principal investigator for

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a number of years right now it's a

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digital collection of 14,000 a little

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over 14,000 Arabic scholarly books it's

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available free of charge online you

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don't need to set up an account you can

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just log in and use it and the

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collections come from the libraries that

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you can see on your screen and I'll

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rattle them off because some of them are

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small NYU which is the project

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originator NYU Abu Dhabi Columbia the

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American University and

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Kairo the American University in Beirut

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Princeton Cornell the Qatar National

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Library and the National Archives of the

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United Arab Emirates now you may ask why

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these libraries and the reason for that

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is is actually very straightforward and

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a little bureaucratic when nyu conceived

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this project it's a big complicated

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project as you may imagine with all

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these partners and so what nyu did is it

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started with universities that have

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excellent Arabic collections with whom

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NYU had already done collaborative work

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the idea is not to limit the collection

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to these libraries but to start with

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these libraries figuring that in complex

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for a big complex endeavor it's at least

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easier if you've worked with the

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partners before so that's why these

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libraries are the ones that are

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contributors right now and then the hope

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is that once we actually finish or Z I'm

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still saying we once the the holdings of

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these libraries are actually finished

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then the project would move on and would

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and would include other collections

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you'll find a wide variety of subjects

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in Arabic collections online including

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novels poetry language grammar

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biographies society social studies and

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economic studies literary criticism

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history Islamic law and religious

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studies of all kinds you will find

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perhaps a little bit less of math and

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science and that's because since roughly

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the middle of the 19th century many Arab

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writers have published their decide

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writers in the areas of math and science

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have published their work in European

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languages so there's a little bit less

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of that but but it's but it's there so a

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wide variety of subjects and of course

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if you can if you think back to the

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libraries from which these these these

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works were chosen

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these are good scholarly collections so

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the quality of the of the books is is is

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very high these are rich Arabic

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collections you're going to find a lot

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of books that are hard to find you're

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out of print and here's a real favorite

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of mine Hashim Raghav's I'm a common are

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taki this this particular book is only

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held by seven libraries in North America

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that I can find it's never been

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reprinted and so the only way that most

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of us would have access to this is

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through interlibrary loan and we all

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know how well that's would work in this

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in these days so this is the kind of

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thing that you can find and there's

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there are a number of them here's here's

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a work on ethics and ethics and the

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psychology of religion from the 1940s

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again unavailable these books you know

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never reprinted and you know in many

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it's it's a problem with a lot of Arabic

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books is that they haven't been ever

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reprinted and then this is an

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interesting one this is this is a rather

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controversial look at gently poetry by

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tossing another very hard to find it's a

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hard to find book and it's available

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right here and it's not one of Tahoe

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sayings best-known works but it's very

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in it's a very interesting one there's

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depth in the subject matter here

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there are over forty forty works by

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topical Hakim the playwright another

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ninety publications by Tahoe saying

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himself and so you can find you can find

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quite a bit of literature a basic Arabic

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literature classical I mean classical in

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the Western sense of canonical that's

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what I should have said canonical

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literature

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that's not in the Edition that you would

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most like to have but possibly you can

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find something you can find an addition

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that will tide you over until you find

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you're able to get at the the Edition

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that you would most like how do you find

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it you can get Google of course Arabic

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collections online or go to D live dot

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NYU dot edu slash ACO

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and here's where you land for for most

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of you I think navigation will be very

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simple in the working with this page it

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works just about exactly like you'd

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expect

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you've got home you've got about other

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resources is an interesting list of

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other online resources that are

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available free of charging I no doubt

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will include some that Robins about to

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mention browse browse by category and

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search

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and you can you know read more there's

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an update here on on what what's new

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with the project there are search tips

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which you can find by clicking on the

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search page and there is help in Arabic

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and English now you should use this

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because if there's if you find something

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wrong with the database the staff is

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good at fixing it quickly and you can

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get a response as I said in Arabic in

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English and the woman who is most likely

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to take your query also can respond in

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French so it's um it's a very useful

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service and you can just ask how do I do

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X or how do I do y if there's a

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technical problem it may take overnight

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to fix but somebody will attend to it if

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you draw attention to it I will take the

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opportunity to relate one little

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anecdote we did get a suggestion one

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time years ago from a gentleman in a

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predominantly Sunni community in the

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Middle East who told us that we had

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altogether too many books on she I is

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something we should take some of them

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away which we did not do once you find

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what you want you'll be looking at a

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page something like this and again you

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can see at the top the black bar gives

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you various options for rearranging the

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page if you look to the left you'll find

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descriptions for instructions for how to

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download what you're looking at as a PDF

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and then in addition to the navigation

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arrows that will take you left and right

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from page by page by page at the bottom

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you can't see it on this screen but you

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will if you log on to that or if you

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open the application there's a bar along

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the bottom that allows you to scroll

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quickly from one place to the next

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within the book so you don't have to go

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page by page by page

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you can print the entire book the page

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you're looking at whatever you want you

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can search in Arabic or Roman

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transliteration and the transliteration

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system is that that is used is the same

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one that is used in American libraries

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so it would be familiar to you you can

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download books you can read online you

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can do just about anything you want to

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do all of the books in this resource are

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out of copyright as far as we know in

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the countries in which they were

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published this was a matter of research

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of substantial research of copyright law

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done by one of my used lawyers at the

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beginning of the project and we of

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course also have a takedown policy in

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case a mistake has been made and

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something is actually in copyright the

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project has been online for almost ten

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years and as far as I know we've never

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had a complaint so I that the use usage

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is that the presentation of books is and

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your access to them is legal in in local

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terms this is a point that Robin will

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probably also make if you don't find

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what you're looking for on the first

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search try a different search in big

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libraries such as UCLA's there the

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library catalog may think a little bit

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differently than you do there may be a

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mistake somewhere in the cataloging and

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so you should never assume that

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something isn't there based on a single

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search always try something else and

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then if you can't find it there then it

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might be worth a question you know is

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the book in the collection or or or not

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it might be worth a different line of

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approach I'm going to mention one fairly

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serious limitation to this collection

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and that is you can search the

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the descriptions of books that is the

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cataloguing you cannot yet search within

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the books this OCR for Arabic as many of

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you may know is a very difficult and

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complicated matter and the the library

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and ye was just making some progress on

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on OCR for Arabic this spring and like

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many other things in our world that has

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been shut down

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but this searching within books is

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coming and hopefully it's not too far in

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the future so with that I'll say thank

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you for your attention and turn you over

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to Robin thank you so much Jenny um for

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that fabulous presentation it's a great

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lead-in to what I have to say if you

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just excuse me for one second boy start

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my timer so I don't go over time because

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I want to be sure that you guys have

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enough time to ask questions so once

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again my name is Robin Doherty and I'm

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librarian for Middle East Studies at the

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University and I'm also interim

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librarian for African Studies that's

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just another thing that happens when

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people retire and we don't have funding

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to hire new staff so I have a wear a lot

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of hats and what I wanted to do was what

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I'm going to do I'm a I don't know who

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attended Monday's session so a little

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bit of what I say may overlap with

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Monday but as I was explaining to

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Professor Authority they're all Korea's

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presentation on Monday she and I are

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very different kinds of people we have

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different interests and whatever I say

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that similar to what L said or what even

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Ginni said I may have my own little

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twist or twist or approach to it so I'm

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going to attempt to share my screen idly

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failed with PowerPoint except for this

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this is going to be about remote

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research in Middle East Studies for you

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guys or how I learned to stop worrying

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and just get on with it

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so if you've ever seen the movie dr.

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Strangelove you'll recognize the

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gentleman down here in the lower right

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he's a strange doctor for strange times

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and those are the times that were in it

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so but you've never seen this movie

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perfect viewing for our lockdown

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situation so enough of that silliness

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okey-dokey

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now I know that Dale mentioned the

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housing and blog when she spoke to you

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on Monday I have to concur this is an

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incredible project if you are not

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familiar with this blog you should find

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a way to familiarize yourself spend some

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time here the other thing that I want to

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point out just in case it wasn't said

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before is that this blog is created by

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people who are pretty much just like you

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or who were recently you it's not

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exclusively created by people who are

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already full-blown professional

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academics they encourage submissions of

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many of the people who have written

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posts our graduate students people who

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have just returned from field work and

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so they offer a very important

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perspective or only how to actually use

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collections and given the fact that you

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know it's unlikely anybody's going to be

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traveling any time soon

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this is your chance to sort of fit you

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know do your homework for your hopeful

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field trip of adventures in the future

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and figure out you know what is the deal

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with the various archives in Egypt or in

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the Middle East for example what what's

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in them and there's even nitty-gritty

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about you know what works with the stuff

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you know how to be nice to the staff how

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they appreciate being approached all

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kinds of practical details of working in

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archives all over the world beyond let

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me see the other thing that I like about

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this and the other thing I want to be

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sure to point out is it is certainly not

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comprehensive so it only lists three

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online archives well that's because

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they've only had three people write

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about them so they consider these any

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lacunae that you see as opportunities

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from your potential writing and

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submission to this blog as I say they

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welcome this kind of thing description

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of libraries around the Middle East

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let me see mine

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scroll all the way down but again it's

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sort of library by library descriptions

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then these sort of essays on just

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various aspects of resources that are

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important for you guys for doing your

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research I just can't say enough

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positive things about this project it's

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truly amazing the other thing that is

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nice about it is that you can search the

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blog about it it's it puts everything in

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these kind of big buckets so Jenny made

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a reference to how things are organized

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and this is not put together exclusively

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by librarians a couple of the

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contributors are now librarians but they

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may be they aren't all and so the way

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that this is organized requires a bit of

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browsing and clicking around and you can

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search but again as Jenny already

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mentioned be careful about the terms

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that you use to search on so for example

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there's a blog that that Dale mentioned

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on Monday called Amir and you can search

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for it in the search box here and just

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wait for one second well it doesn't pop

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up by itself because it's part of

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another post so you need to sort of be

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aware of that it's in this one for sure

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this contributor na Mansour is at

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Princeton this contributor is an

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advanced graduate student but she hasn't

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finished her PhD yet so this is an

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example of the kind of post that you

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could contribute this is a very thorough

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but not a comprehensive list of

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resources that this person has

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identified as being useful and somewhere

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around and here is on there because I've

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had to search the page to find Amir you

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know another thing I want to point out

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specifically is Amir is a tremendous

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blog and from this particular blog post

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all that you will learn about Amir is

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that it's a great tool to find material

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online so it doesn't still don't tell

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you much about what this really is but

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if you actually go to the blog well this

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is it right here what it actually is is

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it as a compilation of open access

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resources so the husband a post doesn't

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specifically indicate

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the fact that a mirror is a place where

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a bunch of our colleagues have collected

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things that are specifically open access

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and they're doing the best they can

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there's a lot of material in here but

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but that's the the reigning definition

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of what goes into the Emir blog so

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housing is great for finding things but

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it doesn't necessarily tell you

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everything you might want to know about

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what a thing really is the other thing I

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noticed and again this is relevant to

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what Jimmy said a second ago I tried

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searching open access that I know that a

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mirror it was a no that's its specialty

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that's the kind of materials that it

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includes and I thought you know maybe

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somewhere else in the hajime blog they

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collect things that are specifically

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open and access and I tried this and and

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I found when he see these but if you do

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let me see it doesn't say as I say it

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doesn't say that Amir specifically is

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open access but you can say so you

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wouldn't have found a mirror as an open

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access blog you would have found other

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things as open access resources so like

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I say just or paid attention to do the

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terminology that's used to describe

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things and what may or may not be

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missing and I feel obligated to point

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out that Hajime is a fabulous tool as it

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is it's a bit of an outgrowth from a

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slightly older tool that preceded it

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called fresh from the archives this tool

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seems to be moribund unfortunately but

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it was a similar idea where students

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returning from various libraries around

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the world in archives would actually

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write up their experiences of actually

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using these things so if this was really

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in they even said things like how much

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does it cost to make photocopies how

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receptive are the idea of digitizing

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things and putting them on a cd-rom for

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you or on a hard drive or you know all

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of these where is the nearest coffee

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shop you know things that graduate

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students really need some help but

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unfortunately um this very useful

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resource seems to have gone quiet and it

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was as you can see about much more of

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the world and many many different

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disciplines not

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the middle-east related which Hajime is

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definitely a Middle East related so just

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wanted to point out to you you may

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sometimes you may possibly hear about

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this fresh from the archives but huzi

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nate is a worthy successor to it so let

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me say I've talked a little bit about

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yeah oh the one thing that I

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particularly find useful in Amir is a

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one particular blog post where it lists

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it is an alphabetical list of historical

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newspapers now this is a bunch of

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librarians but even though the

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contributors are let me see here they

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are I think most of them are librarians

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even though that they are professionals

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they are still not using their

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professional skills maybe to the maximum

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to organize their blog in the most

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efficient way so while there is a link

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in all of this long tag list to

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newspapers and it's down here under n

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Wow they should have done like an A to Z

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sort of thing to make it easier there's

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newspapers and you see there's 35 posts

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well that's 35 blog posts about separate

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newspaper titles it's none of these

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posts link back to their fabulous

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alphabetical list of historical

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newspapers the only way to find it is to

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do the word alphabetical in this search

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box and then it's still a is it going

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against spinning round and round please

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don't break down on me now wait just one

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second come along come on

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my god it's there believe me

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in any case of what it is I'll just

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describe it for you since I am having a

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hard time reaching in it which could be

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due to any number of reasons it's a very

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low it's a very long list arranged by

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country which is super useful of

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historical newspapers that are available

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by open access now unfortunately my

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colleagues who do this blog are not able

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to you know they can't continually

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maintain the site so you might possibly

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find broken links but in any case I'm

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terribly sorry I didn't work but it's a

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very very useful resource that I wanted

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you to be sure to point you to and it

549

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will work if you go to the Aamir link

550

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and type in alphabetical in search box

551

00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,390

you'll find it and maybe you're doing it

552

00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:53,150

by yourself now I know that they'll also

553

00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:55,130

mention happy trust and I don't know

554

00:25:53,150 --> 00:25:58,940

what specifically she said about it when

555

00:25:55,130 --> 00:26:01,760

she spoke to you guys but I wanted to be

556

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sure to point out that in addition to

557

00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,590

happy trust there is an emergency

558

00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:10,300

temporary access that healthy trust has

559

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enabled as a result of the koban 19

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situation and you I noticed that UCLA

561

00:26:15,890 --> 00:26:20,870

did a survey of the materials and its

562

00:26:18,650 --> 00:26:23,570

own print collections versus the titles

563

00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:26,030

that are held in happy trust and found

564

00:26:23,570 --> 00:26:28,570

that there is a 50% overlap between our

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holdings and happy trust and UCLA

566

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catalog holdings so what this means is

567

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that books that are not available as

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ebooks or were digitized and in happy

569

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trust but we're still in copyright and

570

00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:49,550

the digitizing library was not UCLA and

571

00:26:47,179 --> 00:26:52,550

this is a bit into the weeds of library

572

00:26:49,550 --> 00:26:55,610

science but it means that temporarily

573

00:26:52,550 --> 00:26:58,790

access has been offered to UCLA for

574

00:26:55,610 --> 00:27:01,670

these in copyright titles and you can

575

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find them by searching directly in happy

576

00:27:01,670 --> 00:27:08,090

trust so this is the interface now I've

577

00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:08,950

logged in as me from Yale but the

578

00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:12,190

behavior

579

00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:15,210

be the same for you the advice is when

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00:27:12,190 --> 00:27:17,529

you get to the HathiTrust landing page

581

00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:20,320

what you want to do is you want to do

582

00:27:17,529 --> 00:27:22,539

you can certainly use the white search

583

00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,130

box and see what you get but I really

584

00:27:22,539 --> 00:27:26,289

recommend a little bit more

585

00:27:24,130 --> 00:27:29,380

sophisticated approach to choose

586

00:27:26,289 --> 00:27:32,620

advanced catalog search at the beginning

587

00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:35,679

it makes your search more precise please

588

00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:37,990

no timeout on me please don't timeout on

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00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:40,750

me there we go hooray okay I just

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00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:43,389

thought as an example I would try to

591

00:27:40,750 --> 00:27:47,620

look at the history of the Arabs because

592

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that's such a classic work and it was

593

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something that we had so you notice what

594

00:27:50,409 --> 00:27:55,870

I did I I used advanced search I put the

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00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:58,960

author as which is a known term and I

596

00:27:55,870 --> 00:27:59,440

put the title in the title search like

597

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that

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and I'm then I'm going to click and I'll

599

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get a couple of results on only one of

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00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:15,519

which is full view now what that means

601

00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:17,500

is that is full view to me at Yale this

602

00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,419

result could be slightly different for

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00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:21,460

you from UCLA because you may own

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00:28:19,419 --> 00:28:25,919

different editions of this work in your

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00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:28,779

own collection you notice that like I

606

00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:31,090

need from you I cannot view the entire

607

00:28:28,779 --> 00:28:33,130

text of this one I can only do a search

608

00:28:31,090 --> 00:28:36,250

for it because it was published in 1937

609

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so it is still in copyright but if I

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were to choose something that I can

611

00:28:38,139 --> 00:28:44,860

actually view the text I told you this

612

00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:47,230

1951 Edition I am able to view the

613

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entire text and use it you know it

614

00:28:47,230 --> 00:28:51,370

happens that history the arabs does

615

00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,340

exist as an e-book that can be purchased

616

00:28:51,370 --> 00:28:56,049

from a publisher we have the e-book at

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00:28:54,340 --> 00:28:59,139

yale i didn't check to see if you guys

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had it at UCLA but in any case it's nice

619

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to know that there's more than one way

620

00:29:00,220 --> 00:29:08,590

to access things right now so I just

621

00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:09,970

wanted to highlight that aspect of

622

00:29:08,590 --> 00:29:12,309

hockey trust I would close these windows

623

00:29:09,970 --> 00:29:15,789

because I think that that might help to

624

00:29:12,309 --> 00:29:18,100

with my connectivity ok the Internet

625

00:29:15,789 --> 00:29:21,190

Archive I know that they'll talk to you

626

00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:22,450

guys about this also on Monday internet

627

00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:24,880

archive is

628

00:29:22,450 --> 00:29:28,840

for librarians it's a bit problematic

629

00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,760

although we are aware that our are the

630

00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,500

students and the faculty discover

631

00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:36,580

materials in here all the time for a a

632

00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,960

little bit the reasons why it's

633

00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:40,270

problematic basically have to do with

634

00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,590

copyright and the approach of the

635

00:29:40,270 --> 00:29:44,230

Internet Archive to materials that

636

00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:47,830

aren't copyright it's very easy to find

637

00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:49,450

lots of writing about why people are mad

638

00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:51,580

about the Internet Archive and its

639

00:29:49,450 --> 00:29:53,680

emergency library this is just one

640

00:29:51,580 --> 00:29:56,530

example of a recent news story this was

641

00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,360

published in the throes of our current

642

00:29:56,530 --> 00:30:00,790

crisis as you can see just in early

643

00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,640

April so if you're actually interested

644

00:30:00,790 --> 00:30:08,170

in understanding why what brands have

645

00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,910

been a bit reluctant to sort of sell be

646

00:30:08,170 --> 00:30:12,580

Internet Archive to you even though you

647

00:30:09,910 --> 00:30:15,100

find materials there on your own and

648

00:30:12,580 --> 00:30:15,700

everybody says oh I thought Internet all

649

00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:18,610

the time

650

00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:20,740

this explains a little bit why we find

651

00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:23,590

it so problematic so let's get rid of

652

00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:25,330

that back to Internet Archive you may

653

00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:29,200

also know that this is a way to search

654

00:30:25,330 --> 00:30:32,200

for older versions of websites or

655

00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,790

defunct websites yesterday and this

656

00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,590

morning it was a bit of a kerfuffle on

657

00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:40,090

Twitter about the disappearance of the

658

00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:45,790

encyclopaedia iranica online and it has

659

00:30:40,090 --> 00:30:47,140

been oopsie in order to look for our old

660

00:30:45,790 --> 00:30:49,390

websites you've got to give it the URL

661

00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:51,460

you can't use keyword searching in order

662

00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:53,050

to find things so that's something to

663

00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:54,610

remember about the Wayback Machine and

664

00:30:53,050 --> 00:30:55,990

it shows me how many times the

665

00:30:54,610 --> 00:30:57,040

Encyclopedia Roenick that has been

666

00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:59,950

archived and I can at least

667

00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,230

theoretically view let me say this is

668

00:30:59,950 --> 00:31:04,150

2020 so look how many times it was

669

00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:08,020

archived every time you see a great big

670

00:31:04,150 --> 00:31:12,190

blue blob it indicates a time that that

671

00:31:08,020 --> 00:31:13,930

website was crawled so that is something

672

00:31:12,190 --> 00:31:17,350

interesting about the wayback machine

673

00:31:13,930 --> 00:31:21,160

and then the Internet Archive itself I

674

00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:27,190

tried again our friend hid the history

675

00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:33,220

of the Arabs and I just wanted to show

676

00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:35,559

you this you'll see excuse me there are

677

00:31:33,220 --> 00:31:38,049

a number of versions

678

00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:39,490

that represent different editions he has

679

00:31:38,049 --> 00:31:41,529

different publication years as you can

680

00:31:39,490 --> 00:31:43,929

see over here on the Left I always think

681

00:31:41,529 --> 00:31:46,600

it's interesting some of these are in

682

00:31:43,929 --> 00:31:49,059

that emergency temporary National

683

00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,610

Library and those are the seven

684

00:31:49,059 --> 00:31:53,409

described as available to borrow because

685

00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:55,629

that is the principle on which the

686

00:31:53,409 --> 00:31:58,509

emergency National Library is working

687

00:31:55,629 --> 00:32:01,440

that they are books that you borrow you

688

00:31:58,509 --> 00:32:04,870

actually check these out when you go to

689

00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:10,119

the item in the in the Internet Archive

690

00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:12,429

it will say the I don't want to mess up

691

00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:13,990

my connection eventually it comes up

692

00:32:12,429 --> 00:32:14,320

with a little button that says here we

693

00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:16,629

go

694

00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,249

login and borrow and you can borrow it

695

00:32:16,629 --> 00:32:20,679

for 14 days but then there's all these

696

00:32:18,249 --> 00:32:23,110

other ones that are just always they're

697

00:32:20,679 --> 00:32:24,340

always available and I always think it's

698

00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:28,809

interesting to have a look at some of

699

00:32:24,340 --> 00:32:33,669

these so like this one when you look at

700

00:32:28,809 --> 00:32:36,279

these books in Internet Archive come on

701

00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:38,799

there's information below that it

702

00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:41,320

indicates where these things came from

703

00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:43,119

and who put them here and I I just find

704

00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,850

that really interesting so this

705

00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:47,830

particular copy Oh hit these history of

706

00:32:45,850 --> 00:32:49,659

the Arabs was put into the internet

707

00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:52,090

archive by someone who identifies

708

00:32:49,659 --> 00:32:54,369

themselves as a tittie who buy honey um

709

00:32:52,090 --> 00:32:56,230

and then you get to see if you've looked

710

00:32:54,369 --> 00:32:58,360

there what else this person is what if

711

00:32:56,230 --> 00:33:00,460

this contributor is interested in um I

712

00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,039

just find that a fun game to play with

713

00:33:00,460 --> 00:33:05,440

this so that you understand these are

714

00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:08,289

individuals basically that are footing

715

00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,149

you know their personal copies or copies

716

00:33:08,289 --> 00:33:12,249

kneeboard from somebody else into this

717

00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:13,960

resource so now we know other things

718

00:33:12,249 --> 00:33:17,139

that before any history is interested in

719

00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,970

um and as I say this this can be a

720

00:33:17,139 --> 00:33:20,919

source of additional things that you

721

00:33:18,970 --> 00:33:23,519

might not have known about for just a

722

00:33:20,919 --> 00:33:27,070

source of endless amusement and fun so

723

00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:28,840

there's that okie-dokie digital

724

00:33:27,070 --> 00:33:32,619

collections are very important for you

725

00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,360

guys um the fact of the matter is as

726

00:33:32,619 --> 00:33:36,009

you've probably already discovered not

727

00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,230

everything is online in fact not even

728

00:33:36,009 --> 00:33:42,210

10% of everything is online it might be

729

00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:44,590

1% of everything even if that is online

730

00:33:42,210 --> 00:33:47,139

UCLA has this fabulous international

731

00:33:44,590 --> 00:33:48,190

digital ephemeral project and I just had

732

00:33:47,139 --> 00:33:50,350

a quick look at this book

733

00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:52,389

we're talking to you I always searched

734

00:33:50,350 --> 00:33:55,210

on Egypt because it's such a I look I

735

00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:56,769

lived in Egypt a long time and it's such

736

00:33:55,210 --> 00:33:58,330

a productive term went for searching

737

00:33:56,769 --> 00:33:59,860

what I just want to show something we

738

00:33:58,330 --> 00:34:02,529

just want to figure out what's in this

739

00:33:59,860 --> 00:34:05,200

resource so these are all items that

740

00:34:02,529 --> 00:34:06,909

have been digitized that are in UCLA

741

00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,859

collections and that you can access

742

00:34:06,909 --> 00:34:10,030

remotely and when you look at the

743

00:34:08,859 --> 00:34:13,119

separate things you'll see they come

744

00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:14,409

from separate sub collections so some of

745

00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,810

you may be familiar with the Qatar

746

00:34:14,409 --> 00:34:19,780

square documents collection that is

747

00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:21,700

housed at UCLA and then there are other

748

00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:24,159

collections that are all sort of folded

749

00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:27,339

into this so this is again this is a

750

00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:29,440

UCLA based resource that is available

751

00:34:27,339 --> 00:34:32,740

for you and pretty much every other

752

00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,720

research library has similar digital

753

00:34:32,740 --> 00:34:38,619

collections we have a big one at Yale

754

00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:42,040

and you know I'm more than happy to help

755

00:34:38,619 --> 00:34:44,230

you guys with your particular research

756

00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,440

projects to identify where you might be

757

00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:51,639

able to find digital collections that

758

00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:55,450

can be helpful to you let me see ok so

759

00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:57,490

now I'm going to go on to some things

760

00:34:55,450 --> 00:34:59,140

that what you're looking at right now is

761

00:34:57,490 --> 00:35:03,280

is the research guide that I have put

762

00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:05,020

together for my job at Yale if there is

763

00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,770

a similar guide like this put together

764

00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:11,500

by the librarians at UCLA that related

765

00:35:08,770 --> 00:35:12,940

to Near East Studies I'm going to focus

766

00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:15,520

on things here that are actually open

767

00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:18,880

access so that I'm not sure if these are

768

00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,099

on the UCLA subject guides but they are

769

00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:25,839

open to you they're not restricted to

770

00:35:21,099 --> 00:35:27,520

you and if they're not on the UCLA

771

00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:30,099

subject guides you can come over to my

772

00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,440

guide and mine it for whatever is useful

773

00:35:30,099 --> 00:35:33,670

to you so please feel free to do so many

774

00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,760

of these that are on this page are

775

00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:39,460

actually licensed so UCLA may also have

776

00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:43,390

access to these but you won't have

777

00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:45,250

access to UCLA's instance through my

778

00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:46,599

guide you'll only you know you will be

779

00:35:45,250 --> 00:35:49,089

prevented because it will point to

780

00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:51,099

Yale's access but having said all of

781

00:35:49,089 --> 00:35:52,930

that at the very bottom of so this is

782

00:35:51,099 --> 00:35:54,730

the front page getting started with

783

00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:57,130

research if you go scroll Scroll scroll

784

00:35:54,730 --> 00:35:58,359

away to the bottom there's this thing so

785

00:35:57,130 --> 00:36:01,840

Jenny was just talking about the

786

00:35:58,359 --> 00:36:04,540

difficulty of Arabic language OCR in

787

00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:07,540

in the mid arts as we say in

788

00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:09,070

approximately 2005 on gale worked on a

789

00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:12,040

really ambitious project and it was

790

00:36:09,070 --> 00:36:15,250

pretty much a proof of concept to create

791

00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:18,340

a resource it contains a quarter million

792

00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:20,680

pages of full-text Arabic language

793

00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:22,990

scholarly journals now I've discovered

794

00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:26,860

that this project I don't know why I was

795

00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:28,690

not very well publicized and I I really

796

00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:32,800

don't know how much use its ever gotten

797

00:36:28,690 --> 00:36:34,390

but it still exists and this is another

798

00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,310

thing I want to talk about with regard

799

00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:39,160

to all of these online resources is this

800

00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:40,600

concept of pre charity so a resource

801

00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,340

like Arabic collections online that

802

00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,890

Jenny talked about has a certain

803

00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:46,930

stability built in because of the nature

804

00:36:44,890 --> 00:36:50,220

of the partners that were involved in it

805

00:36:46,930 --> 00:36:53,140

that resource it's very unlikely that

806

00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:55,000

you know it's going to go away this year

807

00:36:53,140 --> 00:36:57,880

for sure I mean it's definitely there

808

00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:00,700

for quite a while but there are other

809

00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:03,370

projects that are taking on a lot of

810

00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:05,800

fanfare and a lot of excitement and then

811

00:37:03,370 --> 00:37:09,430

are not sustained and unfortunately a

812

00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:12,010

meal was one of them now it's it's kind

813

00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:15,280

of limping along and it is still

814

00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:18,760

available in full text so it is gosh I

815

00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,590

forgot I think it's about 22 scholarly

816

00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,840

journals in Arabic that are included in

817

00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:24,970

this resource now ignore the first

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00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:29,170

paragraph just right here it's a new

819

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Emil is what you want

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00:37:29,170 --> 00:37:35,770

that's our you'll see our Yale's catalog

821

00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:38,680

looks very much like UCLA's and this is

822

00:37:35,770 --> 00:37:40,330

the search page I don't recommend

823

00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:45,850

searching in it right now because as I

824

00:37:40,330 --> 00:37:49,060

say the it was up until about six months

825

00:37:45,850 --> 00:37:51,460

ago still full-text searchable in Arabic

826

00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:53,320

script so you could actually type in a

827

00:37:51,460 --> 00:37:55,780

string and Arabic script and get back

828

00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,760

results from within articles of these

829

00:37:55,780 --> 00:38:00,010

journals it's not working right now

830

00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,510

I was promised that it would be an

831

00:38:00,010 --> 00:38:02,950

upgrade to software and it would be

832

00:38:01,510 --> 00:38:04,210

working by December but right now I

833

00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:05,380

don't think that's even going to happen

834

00:38:04,210 --> 00:38:08,290

I think we got to wait a little bit

835

00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:10,990

longer but in the meantime you can still

836

00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:13,300

at least browse the journals and so this

837

00:38:10,990 --> 00:38:14,620

is the list of the journals you'll see

838

00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:15,230

there so they're actually in French or

839

00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:18,460

English

840

00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:20,990

these are various scholarly periodicals

841

00:38:18,460 --> 00:38:23,690

published in Arab countries and Arabic

842

00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:25,220

speaking countries and you can if you

843

00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:28,070

just explored the tree little that you

844

00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:30,579

can actually look at each issue so as I

845

00:38:28,070 --> 00:38:34,520

say um they're there underneath this

846

00:38:30,579 --> 00:38:37,010

there used to be working of a CR it's

847

00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,960

not working right now but I want you to

848

00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:41,000

know about it because I hope that in the

849

00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,190

future on the OCR will work and as I

850

00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,329

said in the meantime there are not many

851

00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:50,119

places to go for Arabic language

852

00:38:47,329 --> 00:38:53,089

scholarly journals that you can actually

853

00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:55,160

look at online so I just wanted to be

854

00:38:53,089 --> 00:39:02,089

sure to tell you about that so that's a

855

00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:06,109

meal and let me see go okay from my own

856

00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:08,359

guide let me see I have links to news

857

00:39:06,109 --> 00:39:09,950

resources in a particularly cap so again

858

00:39:08,359 --> 00:39:12,500

I'm only going to talk to you about the

859

00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:15,440

things that that you can also look at

860

00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:17,690

not things that are restricted to you

861

00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,240

one of the most important things I think

862

00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:21,950

for anyone whose interests in newspapers

863

00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,660

this is newspapers are the most

864

00:39:21,950 --> 00:39:27,200

difficult reference question I ever get

865

00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:29,650

but the there are many ways to answer

866

00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,930

the question how can I find newspapers

867

00:39:29,650 --> 00:39:34,900

for you know a particular country on the

868

00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:39,470

Center for research libraries in Chicago

869

00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:43,160

is a extremely useful repository that

870

00:39:39,470 --> 00:39:45,230

you cannot go to the UCLA catalog or the

871

00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:48,079

Yale Pella or any other library catalog

872

00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:50,180

and do a search on newspapers Egypt

873

00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:52,670

that's not going to work what you'll get

874

00:39:50,180 --> 00:39:54,829

back is things that are about newspapers

875

00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:56,960

in Egypt and then that way you can learn

876

00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:59,060

what the newspapers titles are but you

877

00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,770

can't actually get to whatever the

878

00:39:59,060 --> 00:40:02,119

library may hold that are actually

879

00:40:00,770 --> 00:40:05,810

newspapers published in Egypt for

880

00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:08,329

example but the CRL catalog you can

881

00:40:05,810 --> 00:40:10,190

actually do this if you click on browse

882

00:40:08,329 --> 00:40:11,720

you see how they have serials and

883

00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:14,060

newspapers so I can actually click on

884

00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:15,890

this tab newspapers and I can select a

885

00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:18,470

country here so I can say oh I don't

886

00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:21,480

know let's let's try Iraq what what

887

00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:23,369

newspapers have they got from Iraq

888

00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,740

I'm just winging it here click on the

889

00:40:23,369 --> 00:40:30,000

arrow here and it comes back with the

890

00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:34,980

list by city showing what miss baby has

891

00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,180

it is 39 newspapers from Baghdad and you

892

00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:39,619

click and you can see what's available

893

00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:42,089

and some of these have been digitized

894

00:40:39,619 --> 00:40:44,280

you'll have to sort of fare it around in

895

00:40:42,089 --> 00:40:46,170

order to figure that out the majority of

896

00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,010

the whole things of CRL are available on

897

00:40:46,170 --> 00:40:49,920

microfilm

898

00:40:47,010 --> 00:40:51,480

so when interlibrary loan is once again

899

00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,000

permitted and I'm not sure when that's

900

00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,540

going to be you can request this

901

00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:00,900

microfilm through your interlibrary loan

902

00:40:56,540 --> 00:41:04,230

services and you can also request to

903

00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:07,320

have specific issues digitized crl

904

00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:09,150

accepts digitization requests on demand

905

00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,880

and they will digitize the newspaper and

906

00:41:09,150 --> 00:41:14,579

make it available on through their own

907

00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,660

catalogue so again that's a tool I think

908

00:41:14,579 --> 00:41:20,010

a lot of people don't really know much

909

00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:21,420

about that is super super useful on

910

00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:23,550

particularly for graduate students who

911

00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:26,069

want to use these resources for their

912

00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:27,180

research there's a lot of other stuff I

913

00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:28,410

could say about newspapers but I don't

914

00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:30,630

want to bore you and my time is running

915

00:41:28,410 --> 00:41:34,319

out let me see what is the other thing

916

00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:36,480

oh let me see there's a number of things

917

00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:38,310

here that are in fact open access on

918

00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,010

this one is in Persians I focused a lot

919

00:41:38,310 --> 00:41:42,599

on Arabic not so much on other languages

920

00:41:41,010 --> 00:41:45,410

this is an interesting project in the

921

00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:51,060

University of Manchester to provide

922

00:41:45,410 --> 00:41:53,760

digital digitized Persian newspapers and

923

00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:55,200

they have curated by topics so you see

924

00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,710

you know collection of these papers that

925

00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,990

portray Iran in the 50s um let me see

926

00:41:58,710 --> 00:42:03,780

Iran during the late 1990s so these are

927

00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:05,550

on various collections they're very

928

00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:07,770

interesting to look at but it's still a

929

00:42:05,550 --> 00:42:11,339

little challenge to use because they are

930

00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:13,160

not searchable you have to just go in

931

00:42:11,339 --> 00:42:15,660

and read each one I'm not going to risk

932

00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,910

clicking on the link but I just

933

00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:20,220

recommend as I say you can google

934

00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:22,319

nazriya University of Manchester because

935

00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:24,000

it's open access it'll come up or if you

936

00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:26,130

can find your way back again to my

937

00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,530

research guide here and click on news

938

00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:30,569

resources you'll find it that way let me

939

00:42:28,530 --> 00:42:34,650

see I want to be sure to make a shout

940

00:42:30,569 --> 00:42:35,220

out to two librarians in the UC system

941

00:42:34,650 --> 00:42:38,280

that

942

00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:40,560

you guys can also lean on so one of them

943

00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,710

is my colleague Heather Hughes who is at

944

00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:47,099

University of California at Santa

945

00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:50,340

Barbara Heather is a resource for you

946

00:42:47,099 --> 00:42:53,820

and also my colleague Mohammad Hamid who

947

00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:54,930

is at UC Berkeley these guys are as I

948

00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:56,460

say they're both in the UC system

949

00:42:54,930 --> 00:42:59,460

they're familiar with UC system

950

00:42:56,460 --> 00:43:01,710

resources and they can both be of

951

00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:04,980

assistance to you if you feel free to

952

00:43:01,710 --> 00:43:07,470

reach out to anybody really and we will

953

00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:10,830

we're all ready to help to do ever we

954

00:43:07,470 --> 00:43:14,599

can so with that I better stop the setup

955

00:43:10,830 --> 00:43:19,410

and I'll stop sharing and return the

956

00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:21,300

controls to Maybelle's are better thank

957

00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:23,460

you very much for those great

958

00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:25,950

presentations they were incredibly

959

00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:28,230

helpful and I know our students will

960

00:43:25,950 --> 00:43:32,099

reach out to you in the meantime I like

961

00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:35,369

to thank our two wonderful speakers for

962

00:43:32,099 --> 00:43:39,410

so generously sharing their insights and

963

00:43:35,369 --> 00:43:39,410

knowledge with us this afternoon