From Soviet Hell to the Putin Nightmare: A Talk by Victor ErofeievTwo Literary Protest Almanacs: 'Metropol' (1979) and 'VYKHOD' (2022)

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From Soviet Hell to the Putin Nightmare: A Talk by Victor Erofeiev

Wednesday, May 3, 2023
6:00 PM - 7:00 PM

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Offering a timely perspective on the literary and political landscape of modern-day Russia, this presentation will discuss two literary protest almanacs, Metropol (1978) and VYKHOD (2022), which feature contemporary non-conformist Russian writers. The Metropol almanac was a collection of uncensored texts by well-known writers including Vladimir Vysotsky, Bella Akhmadulina, and Andrei Voznesensky, among others. Metropol was self-published in Moscow in December 1978 in a run of 12 copies and was then smuggled to the United States, where it was reprinted by Ardis Publishing in 1979. VYKHOD (Exit) is a new project by Erofeiev, featuring a collection of contemporary Russian non-conformist writers, most of whom left Russia after the start of Putin’s war against Ukraine. VYKHOD features work by prose authors, Vladimir Sorokin and Liudmila Ulitskaya, poets Andrei Makarevich and Boris Grebenschikov, and a new name, Alexandre Delfinov, among others. While VYKHOD showcases writers who fled Russia after Putin began the war, Metropol collected texts that could not be published in the Soviet Union. The comparison of these two collections highlights the evolution of contemporary Russian literature and offers insights into the country's history, politics, and society. Erofeiev will explore the differences between Metropol’s hopefulness and VYKHOD’s despair, themes of disillusion, and the weakness of liberal resources in Russian society. A Q&A session will follow the presentation.

 

Speaker

Born in Moscow in 1947, Victor Erofeiev is a well-known writer, television, and radio personality. His father was Stalin's personal interpreter for French. He became known worldwide for his novel Russian Beauty, published in 1989 and translated into 27 languages. In 1979 he was expelled from the USSR Writers' Union for his participation in the literary anthology Metropol, which included texts that were banned by Soviet censors. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, he republished this almanac. Erofeiev’s writing, particularly his novel Encyclopedia of the Russian Soul (1999), has been controversial among Russian nationalists. (1999). Erofeev's contributions to literature have earned him numerous accolades, including the Legion d'Honneur and the Ordre d’Art et Letters in France and the Kommandor Cross in Poland. Besides writing, Erofeiev has taught and lectured around the world in English, French, Russian, and Polish. He contributes regularly to German newspapers, including FAZ, Die Zeit, and Die Welt. In March 2022, Erofeiev left Russia and is now a professor of literature at Luneburg University in Germany. In April 2023, he published a collection of essays titled Naked Russia, dedicated to Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine. In his most recent work, The Great Gopnik, to be published by Matthes & Seitz later this year, he relates his biography to that of Vladimir Putin.

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Good evening everyone and

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welcome to today's talk

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hosted by the UCLA

Russian flexor program.

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Today's event

is co-sponsored

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by the central

flow languages

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Centre for European and

Russian Studies and

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the Department

of Slavic for

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European and Eurasian

languages and cultures.

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We are grateful

for their support

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in making this

event possible.

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It is our great

honor to have

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with us today

victor, your fav,

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there are odd also

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television and

radio personality

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more than Moscow

in 1947 years

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as a distinguished

literary figure

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whose contributions to

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literature has earned

him worldwide,

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worldwide acclaim.

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He is best known

for he has

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no rush and beauty,

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which has been

published in 1989 and

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translate it into

27 languages.

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Fix literate courier has

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not been without

controversy.

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In 1979, he was

expelled from

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the USSR writers union

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for his publication of

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the literary

anthology Metropole,

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which include

the text which

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will bend by

Soviet censorship.

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Despite this,

he continued to

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write and was

eventually able

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to republish the Almanac

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after the collapse of

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the Soviet Union in

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the post-Soviet era,

however, his work,

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particularly his

novel Encyclopedia

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of the Russian soul,

published in 1999,

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stirred up controversy

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among Russian

nationalists,

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essential workers

rights and

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our guest has taught and

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lectured extensively

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around the world

in English,

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French, Russian,

and polished.

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Also a regular contributor

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to German newspapers such

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as F-A-C-E.

decided in others.

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Like many other

public intellectuals,

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she left Russia in

spring 2022 and there's

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now a professor

of literature at

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Luneburg University

in Germany.

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In April 2023,

he published

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a collection of essays

titled naked Russia,

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which is dedicated to

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the ongoing Russia's

invasion of

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Ukraine and his

upcoming work,

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the great Gopnik,

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be published by

Madison sites

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later this year that

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also relates his

own biography

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to that of Vladimir Putin.

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Really truly privileged

to have victory.

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Our speaker

today and we're

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excited to hear

his insights and

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perspectives on

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contemporary Russian

literature and culture.

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Please join me

in welcoming,

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seek

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to

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change my language

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just from Russian

doing this for me,

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rationale be speaking

English or English

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is preferable or

hokey, pokey.

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But anyway, if I say

peers to replicate

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every dual on its

central goal.

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So you can go,

well, it's also,

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it's also an honor

for me to be here

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in this university is

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not my first time

when I lecture it,

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because many years ago,

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I was a professor of

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USC University and

came here I think,

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two or three times

just to show,

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I love this city.

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I love people

who live here.

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I shouldn't be here.

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I'm very happy I

could come back.

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Now this time.

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Um, well, efficiently

it will be

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kind of comparison

of two aluminums.

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So Metropole and they

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gave me possibility

to show it to you.

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This one is published by

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not too many years ago.

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It was published in

French and Russian.

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And then this new

one, which Dan,

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just this late winter

was called exit.

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We could say that

in particular,

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because I talked

about it In,

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in Brazil, came

from Brazil.

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Beautiful bird

through my lecture

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has been called from

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the Soviet health

nightmare.

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And probably a nightmare

is worse than ****.

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Because, you

know, inhale you,

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you have you have

still know what to

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do because you know

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the rules of the

hill, right?

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So if you are accused

and your own health,

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so you know how to

behave in nightmare,

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you don't know

what will happen.

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Next moment.

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Can you be eaten by

terrible animals?

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Or you'll kill a lot

of people yourself.

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Or your, your, your

wife will betray your,

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you'll betray your wife.

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Well, it's terrible.

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But still seems as

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though the only thing

is that a nightmare.

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Nightmare is not

ideological.

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Then there's still

finish when you wake up.

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And I hope it is

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coming morning

for b naught in,

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in many, many years.

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So let me tell

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you a little bit

about the salmonella,

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but you are absolutely

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absolutely allowed

to even I asked you

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to just to put any

question you want to

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put to discuss

any literary,

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political topics.

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I live in Berlin now it's,

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Sasha was just

published his book,

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Naked Russia in Germany.

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This is a collection of

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my essays for men

German newspapers.

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And here this guy

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looks a little

bit like Putin.

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And who knows,

probably is on

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the moon alone, isolated.

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I wish him to be there.

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So this is my work.

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That's how it

happened this cover.

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But anyway, it

was the book

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about this very painful,

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I would, Mongols analyzing

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terrible crimes which are

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shown in gray, integrate.

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Well.

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We are all responsible

in Russia for

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this when proper

else that was there.

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Because I think this

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is the thing

that sometimes

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people just had

the interview

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with non-stationary

models with for America.

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And I said that

people believe

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that Vera some

good rations

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and they are not

responsible because

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they just want to

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be against Putin and

so on and so on.

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But Putin is not

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the main problem

most of our country.

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I must tell you.

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The main problem

for our country

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is that our

literature, our couch,

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wanted to change

the society

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since the centuries

because the situation in

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Russia was always

terrible situation

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of slaves and masters

and rational knitter.

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She came with IDD

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just to change

this situation.

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To change this situation,

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it was kind of

conspiracy of writers.

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I'm doing now program,

radio program.

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And in Berlin on

rational right here.

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It's called a zygote or

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classical inspiration.

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Classical Russian writers.

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And they wanted all of

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them differently

of course,

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but to change

the duration,

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to bring Russia to

the better light.

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You understand

when you want to

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break people better life.

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The first thing you

should think about

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is these people

deserve better life.

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And it started to build

the first problem,

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which is still

not resonance.

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So everybody has to

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put people on the, on the,

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on the, to put them in

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such a memorial

moralistic way

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that they start to be

about for the class.

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You know that story

with the classroom,

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with their sales

team, music Murray.

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Almost all of them.

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They wanted to end with,

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with almost all

rationalizes.

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They put our great

Russian people

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so high that it

started to be

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our judge said

to be our change

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without just any

reason to be there.

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In any reason, you know,

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in our liberal say, Oh,

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you know, we have

just one problem.

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We have to liberate

our people.

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We have to change

this regime.

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And so we will

change pushing for,

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for us pushing

and pushing and

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pushing and so on

and so on and so on.

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And then there'll be,

there'll be in Europe.

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For Russia, it is

not true at all.

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It is just not true.

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If we want to do

something good,

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it's necessary to

read thinking.

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They're thinking about who

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these people are and

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why it happens like that.

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Now, these people support

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putting in these people.

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It's so close to push

him and says this

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is the pilus ration,

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or present and coal

history of Russia.

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Well, when I say history,

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I would say that this

is a metaphor for you

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because I don't think that

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Russia history at all,

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all people historical

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department in University.

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I think that will

be against me,

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but I would say we

never had history.

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History is a free

development of the nation.

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We never been a nation

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will never hit the table.

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We had the curves like

this, turning around,

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turning around and the

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person matters of

this carousel where

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our heroes of

Russian fairytales.

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Creditors can

then be one drug.

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You want the cool,

and many others,

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but they are the same

all the time and only

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vectors where

different and

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still did you see those?

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When you say that

Russian fail the tail

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is a magic wand and it's

very nice and very,

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very, very, very good,

very moralistic.

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It is also not true.

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Just read it

carefully because

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the one dura after 33 is,

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or a city gardens

are rushing store.

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It's a big, big, big fade.

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He said to go and

see the parenthesis

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because he wanted to

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marry her and

who knows why?

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He left his blood,

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his shabby house, and he

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went to the street store.

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Who knows how it works?

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Because they didn't

have wheels,

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but it moved and

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he killed a lot of

people. Fairy tales.

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You could read

it in Veritas.

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And people were

absolutely,

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It's just in this pair.

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And he was happy

because he has

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such a hero, just

killing people.

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It's funny. It's

funny to kill people.

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You know, it's

interesting.

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Sometimes it is so

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boring not to kill

people and all enter.

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One of the reasons

we're putting

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stuff at the wall

because he was born.

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It's so boring to be

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peaceful president

of Russia.

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Because when

you, you know,

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all these slaves start to

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be already not interesting

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because we save everything

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you want to

hear from them.

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They say everything that

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you wanted them to say and

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they think that then

the human to children.

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But children also

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talked about

where language,

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but we will learn how

to talk to pull it in.

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And then she did the war.

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What's a good solution to

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Sunday to tell that

the Native Americans,

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the breeds and gentlemen.

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So also they want to

eat cow country to

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take everything

for all kinds

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of great Russian people.

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Vq, collect if

you want the

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full, say, he's right,

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they come to us,

Let's murder them.

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When I say here, it's

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the worst because he was,

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he was born, that

is not a metaphor.

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He was looked here.

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I think you saw

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his pictures for

the pictures.

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The only time

when he is happy

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when he has a revolver

in his favor,

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some kind of some

kinds of arm.

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And he is so he's,

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so his eyes are

shining when he

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installed macaron

or to other.

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It's a guy.

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He'll he'll go to

**** in 34 years.

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And it's interesting.

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She's not a real guy

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because I am a real

guy. Said pushy.

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Can also was there

anything from the water?

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But I'm a real guy because

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I was just a little ugly.

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It a child under boys.

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And then I start

to be a muscle.

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Yeah, I start

to build them.

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The champion

of our school,

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then the KGB as that,

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the bid Director

of Cultural Center

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and so on and so on.

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So this is my main

hood in this slide,

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and I want victory

all the time.

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I want it, the concurrency,

It's spaghetti.

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It, and it ended

in enjoyed.

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So in this way,

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you know what

kind of history?

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History. It's

it's ridiculous.

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And we have a problem with

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the only drugs we

have broken so there

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because they want to

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liberate for whom

and from whom.

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People asked me

integrals in Bresler,

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who'll come after him.

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And I said,

well, you know,

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we had two miracles

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already started

to show up.

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It still was better.

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Well, after the drop-off.

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And could remember,

I don't remember.

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This guy who

nobody remember.

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It came immediately.

Gorbachev.

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So I wasn't

venus recently.

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Untitled pushing

until war.

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Congress.

349

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And I hit, I hit

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the sharp talk with

our Garry Kasparov,

351

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champion of chess games.

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And I start to

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talk about this

miracle of Gorbachev.

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And Gary told me later

355

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what kind of medical

tests he was,

356

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he was told to

be president by

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KGB and this terrible

glycol chromic.

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So he, he, he played

the role of KGB.

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Let me grab my move.

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The call the MSA.

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And you wanted him

to be named by

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St. Paul and some

sample means from,

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from the, from the sense

of Catholic Church.

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We didn't have such

a church there.

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So this is also

bizarre when you say,

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but that guy who probably

367

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will come up to

put it here,

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it will be not so good

because he already had

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his hands and

arms and blood.

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Wherever it will be.

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It's true. It's

random thing.

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Garry Kasparov who

will be president.

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But I think, But

still we need,

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even in this bloody

terrible Russian,

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Russian fairy tale,

we need a pause.

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Probably this person

will be there.

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Then two of our current

cell this time,

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because it's this power

of Putin with Gopi.

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I say call him and Gopnik,

380

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you say, what's

the white Gopnik?

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Can, in your book can

382

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be great because

it got flipped.

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The business kind of

little materialism.

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Materialism, but

it's a little one

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on the level

of black yard.

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It's it's, it's

not so important.

387

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But that's a problem that

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finally Russia wanted

for little Gopnik.

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Start too big

just because he's

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the president.

It's a paradox.

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And that's right.

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That's why I think

that carousel stopped.

393

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I don't know

how it stopped,

394

00:19:10,759 --> 00:19:13,999

but I think it could

be still Russia.

395

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It could be

several rashes,

396

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could be, whatever

it could be,

397

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but still we're all

responsible for Russia,

398

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for this terrible

situation in Russia.

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Not only putting, not

only greater people,

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also intelligencia,

liberals,

401

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radicals, communists

of course,

402

00:19:34,670 --> 00:19:38,969

finishes all of us.

403

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The difference

between this book,

404

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which I initiated in 1978

405

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and the book is

not the book

406

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of it's nothing

new animal,

407

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not a new element which

408

00:19:56,589 --> 00:19:59,860

is called as a

totally exit.

409

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Is that steel with

410

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culture start to

be a little bit

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more serious

because this book

412

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is a book of spring dance.

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It finally, even with

414

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all this terrible

sender will

415

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all with terrible

soviet hail.

416

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Still we are the best.

417

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Without culture.

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People love us,

people read us,

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people enjoy, and

people won't just do,

420

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just to make a picture

with all of us.

421

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Here. We have results.

422

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You who's just a

national hero,

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who was,

424

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who was very good point

in the beginning.

425

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I think that we,

426

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now we believe that he

427

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is probably just

one of them.

428

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And Brodsky is the best.

429

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Well, I would

say that early,

430

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initial stimulus for

her really great poet.

431

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And then it was just

terrible murder for

432

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a political rather

crucial points

433

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sometimes could

be very big.

434

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We have della module in

our beautiful for it.

435

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Very charming lady.

436

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And the lady who said,

437

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I don't want to sit there

438

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caused by a causeway

439

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because with my hip

440

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or they could be

killed immediately.

441

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I said village could

kill them immediate.

442

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She didn't want

to do that.

443

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And, you know, we've

had so many people

444

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who are really

where the spring

445

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Russia.

446

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And I put in this book

447

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because when I save

it, I didn't shade it.

448

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I invented his book.

449

00:21:57,964 --> 00:21:59,584

It means that it was just

450

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my theoretical,

theoretical beginning.

451

00:22:03,019 --> 00:22:05,959

I had to find

my celiac soon.

452

00:22:05,959 --> 00:22:08,420

Also very good

rational writer who

453

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knew everybody and

who was really,

454

00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:14,629

really number one

in, in prose.

455

00:22:14,629 --> 00:22:17,704

And with him, we

decided to make,

456

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to make this among

457

00:22:19,625 --> 00:22:22,849

the 23 persons

invited by the way,

458

00:22:22,849 --> 00:22:24,899

one American writer who,

459

00:22:24,899 --> 00:22:27,215

Who was it was

John Updike,

460

00:22:27,215 --> 00:22:29,360

help us later on when we

461

00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:33,169

start just to

impress us terribly.

462

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Because then here are

463

00:22:35,569 --> 00:22:37,850

the four edges they

464

00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:39,169

published in The

New York Times.

465

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But if you continue

to compress them,

466

00:22:42,979 --> 00:22:45,860

then they said, we

467

00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:47,780

wouldn't allow

you to publish

468

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as in the Soviet Union.

469

00:22:49,579 --> 00:22:51,620

And that was the moment

470

00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:57,515

when writers union

bureaucrat's where,

471

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where it will get

shocked stores

472

00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,545

still your CV if you're

American writers,

473

00:23:03,545 --> 00:23:06,199

could be very important

for the Soviet Union.

474

00:23:06,199 --> 00:23:07,549

11 time.

475

00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:10,234

It's, it's like

list, I saw it.

476

00:23:10,234 --> 00:23:15,125

So, you know, still even

477

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if we had a lot of

478

00:23:19,550 --> 00:23:21,860

problems with

this publications

479

00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:24,320

and sometimes sensory

was absolutely stupid,

480

00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,510

especially on the

religious, religious site.

481

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And of course,

our article.

482

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Also. Just eat it.

483

00:23:34,504 --> 00:23:36,139

But still, you know,

484

00:23:36,139 --> 00:23:38,825

there was such a fresh air

485

00:23:38,825 --> 00:23:43,040

in this so-called cultural

circles or Moscow,

486

00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,220

but you could say

they are the best,

487

00:23:46,220 --> 00:23:53,640

they're the best and

brightest union club.

488

00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,460

More school was

just a center

489

00:23:57,460 --> 00:24:02,050

of of of dreams.

490

00:24:02,050 --> 00:24:04,719

Everybody wants to

go there to see

491

00:24:04,719 --> 00:24:07,480

was the soundscape

to speak with axon.

492

00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,335

And it was three

for nervosa.

493

00:24:11,335 --> 00:24:12,789

Some of them, they didn't

494

00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:14,830

answer that like

three from F.

495

00:24:14,830 --> 00:24:17,410

And then some

other good job

496

00:24:17,410 --> 00:24:21,800

also is not here but

still 23 of them.

497

00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,059

Made.

498

00:24:25,059 --> 00:24:28,524

Very special

thing in every,

499

00:24:28,524 --> 00:24:30,820

every history of

Soviet Union.

500

00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:32,979

When you open it

in any language,

501

00:24:32,979 --> 00:24:34,359

you'll see the picture of

502

00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,869

these people sitting

on the seller or Bell

503

00:24:38,869 --> 00:24:43,069

up next to nowhere

but you are but

504

00:24:43,069 --> 00:24:49,309

the street and people

who just made this,

505

00:24:49,309 --> 00:24:53,494

well, one of his Glasgow

506

00:24:53,494 --> 00:24:56,239

is now against Putin,

507

00:24:56,239 --> 00:24:57,350

but who helped put

508

00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:59,554

integral to come,

to be present,

509

00:24:59,554 --> 00:25:02,329

once invited me

just to talk about

510

00:25:02,329 --> 00:25:06,485

this monarch to

his institute.

511

00:25:06,485 --> 00:25:09,380

And when I talked

about that,

512

00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:10,460

he said, you know,

513

00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:13,594

these are probably euro

in the Soviet Union.

514

00:25:13,594 --> 00:25:16,115

Me. And he said,

515

00:25:16,115 --> 00:25:18,244

Yes, because you know,

516

00:25:18,244 --> 00:25:21,259

where the action to

be salmonella was,

517

00:25:21,259 --> 00:25:25,715

reaction of

computers continues.

518

00:25:25,715 --> 00:25:27,470

We didn't know what

to do with us.

519

00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:30,275

Nobody went to prison.

520

00:25:30,275 --> 00:25:31,580

I said prominence with

521

00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:34,520

my father, but it's

understandable.

522

00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,989

My father was a

big competitor,

523

00:25:35,989 --> 00:25:37,250

Soviet ambassador,

524

00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:39,860

and then she was she

525

00:25:39,860 --> 00:25:41,405

was his job because of me.

526

00:25:41,405 --> 00:25:45,799

But this is the topic

of good starting book.

527

00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:48,200

But others may still,

528

00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,230

they still alive and

nobody happened to it.

529

00:25:51,230 --> 00:25:55,249

Of course, the axon

of the leaf and to go

530

00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:57,290

to the United

States and to

531

00:25:57,290 --> 00:26:00,304

do here, because

here's decisions.

532

00:26:00,304 --> 00:26:03,259

So he said that

this confusion

533

00:26:03,259 --> 00:26:06,065

was not only to base

it, not only in the,

534

00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:10,400

in the Politburo or

in the righteous,

535

00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,849

even that also KGB

and so on and so on.

536

00:26:13,849 --> 00:26:17,060

And first time they

537

00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:20,074

understood that they

are not so strong,

538

00:26:20,074 --> 00:26:22,009

we are not so mono read

539

00:26:22,009 --> 00:26:24,964

probably Tobias is wrong.

540

00:26:24,964 --> 00:26:25,804

Probably.

541

00:26:25,804 --> 00:26:27,919

I never thought

that I ruined.

542

00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:30,874

But if dislike this,

543

00:26:30,874 --> 00:26:33,335

I'll be happy to

say I ruin it.

544

00:26:33,335 --> 00:26:35,900

I want to do it

all the time. No.

545

00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:37,819

It was disgusting where I

546

00:26:37,819 --> 00:26:40,369

spent my childhood

and parents,

547

00:26:40,369 --> 00:26:41,854

and my father was

548

00:26:41,854 --> 00:26:44,959

a culture that shapes

the Soviet Embassy.

549

00:26:44,959 --> 00:26:47,450

And so we saw Picasso.

550

00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:51,274

Picasso was our friend,

shaggy knowledge on.

551

00:26:51,274 --> 00:26:54,259

So when you saw it

and then they came

552

00:26:54,259 --> 00:26:58,639

back and said

was miserable,

553

00:26:58,639 --> 00:27:02,629

miserable thick and

all these people,

554

00:27:02,629 --> 00:27:05,689

on this level, political

level of vague.

555

00:27:05,689 --> 00:27:07,250

They wanted to

go to Paris.

556

00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:08,585

They want to

drink whiskey,

557

00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:10,190

they want to smoke

American cigarettes,

558

00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:11,435

may want to move.

559

00:27:11,435 --> 00:27:13,039

And at the same time,

560

00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,530

very proud of them.

561

00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:16,879

Proud and newspaper

562

00:27:16,879 --> 00:27:18,740

terrible things

about America,

563

00:27:18,740 --> 00:27:20,090

of course, a bit

about France,

564

00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:21,994

but everybody and so on.

565

00:27:21,994 --> 00:27:25,984

Sam is now even in

the more cynical way,

566

00:27:25,984 --> 00:27:29,059

because at bedtime

still it was a magic,

567

00:27:29,059 --> 00:27:32,044

magic ideology

about the future.

568

00:27:32,044 --> 00:27:34,550

And it's not every

country could save it.

569

00:27:34,550 --> 00:27:36,139

We know our future.

570

00:27:36,139 --> 00:27:39,109

I'm not very sure,

571

00:27:39,109 --> 00:27:41,390

but you know your

future here in America.

572

00:27:41,390 --> 00:27:43,580

But still it's,

it's kind of

573

00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:48,424

his metaphysical

political future.

574

00:27:48,424 --> 00:27:50,254

Of course it

was a decline,

575

00:27:50,254 --> 00:27:53,689

but still it was light

at the same time.

576

00:27:53,689 --> 00:27:55,609

At the same time.

577

00:27:55,609 --> 00:27:57,214

This is fair.

578

00:27:57,214 --> 00:28:01,640

And now it's no future.

579

00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,459

There was the only one.

580

00:28:04,459 --> 00:28:09,244

When I start to make

this new anthology.

581

00:28:09,244 --> 00:28:10,759

There's no, No one.

582

00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:12,409

Unfortunately,

for metal pour,

583

00:28:12,409 --> 00:28:15,109

almost 23 people.

584

00:28:15,109 --> 00:28:18,350

There are four

people that died

585

00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:23,104

from people that said

to be pushing people.

586

00:28:23,104 --> 00:28:25,939

Yes. Yes. Pluck off.

587

00:28:25,939 --> 00:28:30,364

The equivalent

of putting it is

588

00:28:30,364 --> 00:28:35,585

said to be president

of fake fan club,

589

00:28:35,585 --> 00:28:40,894

supported nationalist,

terrible nationalist.

590

00:28:40,894 --> 00:28:45,785

Of ski is a good

theatre director,

591

00:28:45,785 --> 00:28:50,870

but seven to plus B.

592

00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:52,690

And it's terrible.

593

00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:55,130

Know, every collects

the picture.

594

00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:58,669

The picture is hello

from the death.

595

00:28:58,669 --> 00:29:00,184

Because you said

bump, bump,

596

00:29:00,184 --> 00:29:01,639

bump, bump, bump, bump,

597

00:29:01,639 --> 00:29:04,820

bump, bump like this.

598

00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:07,265

It's not it's not fun.

599

00:29:07,265 --> 00:29:11,270

But anyway, this time

with these people,

600

00:29:11,270 --> 00:29:13,370

it's more than,

more than in

601

00:29:13,370 --> 00:29:16,504

metro quotes around 14.

602

00:29:16,504 --> 00:29:19,249

Some of them, absolutely.

603

00:29:19,249 --> 00:29:21,920

Young people who

have a lot of poetry

604

00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,740

that I miss them I

wrote by myself,

605

00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:28,100

perfect, but now

abilities to do it.

606

00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,560

Already an

electronic person

607

00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,464

who published

it in Germany.

608

00:29:32,464 --> 00:29:33,950

Very soon.

609

00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:37,550

It's just done.

610

00:29:37,550 --> 00:29:39,995

This. I must tell you

611

00:29:39,995 --> 00:29:44,660

that boys, prose

writers, philosophers,

612

00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:47,795

essays, people who

write about that,

613

00:29:47,795 --> 00:29:50,945

they start to be

still with the war,

614

00:29:50,945 --> 00:29:52,955

started to be

more serious.

615

00:29:52,955 --> 00:29:55,685

They understood this

problem with liberalism.

616

00:29:55,685 --> 00:29:58,475

Some of them

tend to be good.

617

00:29:58,475 --> 00:30:01,940

Some of them, some of them

618

00:30:01,940 --> 00:30:03,409

start to think

about what does it

619

00:30:03,409 --> 00:30:05,464

mean to be responsible?

620

00:30:05,464 --> 00:30:06,709

What does it mean?

621

00:30:06,709 --> 00:30:07,535

Guilt?

622

00:30:07,535 --> 00:30:09,275

What does it mean?

623

00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:11,885

What does it mean

to be rushing?

624

00:30:11,885 --> 00:30:16,729

And sometimes they go

625

00:30:16,729 --> 00:30:21,439

deeper than this

word. Go deeper.

626

00:30:21,439 --> 00:30:23,029

Just over all this shop

627

00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:24,604

with this gradient shown.

628

00:30:24,604 --> 00:30:29,014

Some of them read through

free or gradients

629

00:30:29,014 --> 00:30:31,265

when there's wonderful

630

00:30:31,265 --> 00:30:34,220

Lithuanian poet

than silver,

631

00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:36,545

Thomas van, so also does.

632

00:30:36,545 --> 00:30:38,435

But the main,

633

00:30:38,435 --> 00:30:44,090

the main picture is

a restaurant 1.1.

634

00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:47,030

You probably know

it's C alcoholic here

635

00:30:47,030 --> 00:30:51,019

from Arizona

State. Michael.

636

00:30:51,019 --> 00:30:53,359

Wonderful analysis.

637

00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:58,140

All of these

shoes of brushes.

638

00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:01,039

You understand

a little bit, I

639

00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:05,450

may operate in years.

640

00:31:05,450 --> 00:31:08,299

Well, when you do

641

00:31:08,299 --> 00:31:10,609

accept to troops

at the same time,

642

00:31:10,609 --> 00:31:13,384

just in the same

time you have to do

643

00:31:13,384 --> 00:31:16,564

even if it's true

but total lie,

644

00:31:16,564 --> 00:31:18,079

but the oxygen and the y.

645

00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:19,835

And so he'd describe it

646

00:31:19,835 --> 00:31:22,729

in this new intelligent,

very interesting.

647

00:31:22,729 --> 00:31:25,505

But it's also

nice, awesome.

648

00:31:25,505 --> 00:31:27,979

Pushkin who lives in,

649

00:31:27,979 --> 00:31:29,869

say, you know him.

650

00:31:29,869 --> 00:31:33,334

He, he, he lives in

Switzerland, in Basel.

651

00:31:33,334 --> 00:31:38,570

And he wrote The

Dow culture.

652

00:31:38,570 --> 00:31:40,924

Even it was

Pushkin culture.

653

00:31:40,924 --> 00:31:42,889

Still look up so

many programs.

654

00:31:42,889 --> 00:31:45,620

It's not only

about people,

655

00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:47,674

but it's also about.

656

00:31:47,674 --> 00:31:50,555

So we have this political,

657

00:31:50,555 --> 00:31:51,920

let's say, by ground,

658

00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,125

but also very wonderful.

659

00:31:54,125 --> 00:31:56,090

Who want to write about

660

00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:58,085

something you, among you.

661

00:31:58,085 --> 00:32:01,684

I am please

recommend wonderful.

662

00:32:01,684 --> 00:32:03,964

National poet who lives in

663

00:32:03,964 --> 00:32:06,965

Germany now is Alexandra.

664

00:32:06,965 --> 00:32:09,859

I don't know if you

heard about him.

665

00:32:09,859 --> 00:32:12,620

No. He is in New York.

666

00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:15,035

Minkowski crazy guy.

667

00:32:15,035 --> 00:32:19,054

Absolutely. No

plan, no fun quiz.

668

00:32:19,054 --> 00:32:23,764

But his, his, his

original name,

669

00:32:23,764 --> 00:32:26,405

smear enough just like

670

00:32:26,405 --> 00:32:29,520

the center to be

the phenotype.

671

00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:33,589

I must tell you that

he is really good.

672

00:32:33,589 --> 00:32:37,460

And we opened this

anthology with his,

673

00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:40,550

with his poem when

674

00:32:40,550 --> 00:32:43,805

he said that ideal

to play with,

675

00:32:43,805 --> 00:32:46,025

I'm guessing your

first love it.

676

00:32:46,025 --> 00:32:48,290

When I have 10-years-old,

677

00:32:48,290 --> 00:32:52,925

I don't know how

much Konopka button.

678

00:32:52,925 --> 00:32:58,399

Button under the US

of my girlfriend.

679

00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:03,905

Bed for small night

I think it look but

680

00:33:03,905 --> 00:33:10,835

sometimes thumbtack

because buttons, nothing.

681

00:33:10,835 --> 00:33:14,150

Nothing but sometimes this

682

00:33:14,150 --> 00:33:19,865

is Sam girls like that.

683

00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:22,220

And he sat with

them then he

684

00:33:22,220 --> 00:33:24,365

said, But your favorite.

685

00:33:24,365 --> 00:33:27,169

But it's a very

strong, strong gray.

686

00:33:27,169 --> 00:33:28,550

Very interesting,

of course,

687

00:33:28,550 --> 00:33:31,970

like all poets a little

bit out of his room.

688

00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:34,699

But really

literally, when they

689

00:33:34,699 --> 00:33:36,110

say my cookie

doesn't mean that

690

00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:37,610

he imitates my go-to.

691

00:33:37,610 --> 00:33:41,209

Here's someone who

knows how to go

692

00:33:41,209 --> 00:33:45,370

through the poem also

about the grain bowl,

693

00:33:45,370 --> 00:33:48,500

just see it and so on.

694

00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:52,460

He lives, he lives

in Germany and

695

00:33:52,460 --> 00:33:57,930

we met him because

my rough gentleman.

696

00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,404

Galleries organized once.

697

00:34:02,404 --> 00:34:04,804

Later on she

continued to do that.

698

00:34:04,804 --> 00:34:08,735

A festival of Russian

art in Montenegro.

699

00:34:08,735 --> 00:34:10,670

And if enough game day,

700

00:34:10,670 --> 00:34:12,050

I was still no squared.

701

00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:13,400

So we met.

702

00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,234

I was really

impressed because

703

00:34:16,234 --> 00:34:19,790

it's but still it is

not only him right now,

704

00:34:19,790 --> 00:34:21,064

the tuple where

705

00:34:21,064 --> 00:34:23,959

a well aware people

who are well-known,

706

00:34:23,959 --> 00:34:25,819

probably, probably

not, not,

707

00:34:25,819 --> 00:34:27,935

not here, but little

known internationally.

708

00:34:27,935 --> 00:34:31,519

Lucia. Here's this

guy who, who,

709

00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:34,264

who Sasha children could

710

00:34:34,264 --> 00:34:38,330

write all terrible

things about everything.

711

00:34:38,330 --> 00:34:41,690

Finally, now he

started to speak

712

00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:47,359

about a lot of

the Almanac,

713

00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:49,249

not only connected

with the war,

714

00:34:49,249 --> 00:34:51,650

but also connected

through this resistor.

715

00:34:51,650 --> 00:34:59,254

So problems. Also,

even in our very good,

716

00:34:59,254 --> 00:35:02,194

very good poems,

717

00:35:02,194 --> 00:35:04,729

and mercury rich

who would now is,

718

00:35:04,729 --> 00:35:07,070

as you probably

know, by name,

719

00:35:07,070 --> 00:35:13,369

by putting foreign

agent macaroons.

720

00:35:13,369 --> 00:35:16,984

Well, here she is.

721

00:35:16,984 --> 00:35:21,124

She speaks about

his childhood,

722

00:35:21,124 --> 00:35:26,930

a board's responsibility

to two distinct to

723

00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:31,940

survive and also the scope

724

00:35:31,940 --> 00:35:34,595

leaves them in random.

725

00:35:34,595 --> 00:35:37,290

In Israel.

726

00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,319

Well, still been stained.

727

00:35:42,319 --> 00:35:44,660

Wonderful poet.

728

00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:49,085

This is part of Office.

729

00:35:49,085 --> 00:35:57,410

Moment of sorrow can

breed of mothers.

730

00:35:57,410 --> 00:35:59,750

And he leaves Moscow heat

731

00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:02,780

we can hit Don't,

don't have disability.

732

00:36:02,780 --> 00:36:05,840

Also Wonderful. So this,

733

00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,124

this generation

also supported,

734

00:36:09,124 --> 00:36:11,990

supported this bottle or

735

00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:16,639

young people from Riga,

some people from,

736

00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:21,935

some people from New York,

737

00:36:21,935 --> 00:36:25,189

you know, like crazy.

738

00:36:25,189 --> 00:36:28,039

And I think that this

739

00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,580

time we have this

possibility to save it.

740

00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:33,410

Is it not only

international,

741

00:36:33,410 --> 00:36:35,314

but this is serious.

742

00:36:35,314 --> 00:36:36,949

It's not game.

743

00:36:36,949 --> 00:36:38,734

It is not just with,

744

00:36:38,734 --> 00:36:41,509

I want to show you

how generous I am.

745

00:36:41,509 --> 00:36:43,879

It's necessary to

say that this is

746

00:36:43,879 --> 00:36:46,640

first time is a

cranium whole set

747

00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,809

to be a problem.

748

00:36:47,809 --> 00:36:50,524

Or for Russian, delicious

749

00:36:50,524 --> 00:36:51,995

since the very beginning,

750

00:36:51,995 --> 00:36:53,780

since the very beginning,

751

00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:58,430

since the 18th century,

since this game.

752

00:36:58,430 --> 00:37:01,009

So with the radical

thing by Virchow,

753

00:37:01,009 --> 00:37:05,044

with Luminoso, with

the pushing later on,

754

00:37:05,044 --> 00:37:06,904

if abortion and so on.

755

00:37:06,904 --> 00:37:09,904

And they were very,

756

00:37:09,904 --> 00:37:11,704

very important

for all of us.

757

00:37:11,704 --> 00:37:15,950

But still, every time

we're something that

758

00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:19,400

came Russia

disability don't

759

00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,084

closer and closer

to the end.

760

00:37:22,084 --> 00:37:23,895

And now we have present.

761

00:37:23,895 --> 00:37:25,810

When I say it, and

it doesn't mean

762

00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:29,680

that we're not

going to help.

763

00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,270

This country.

764

00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:33,069

Probably will have it.

765

00:37:33,069 --> 00:37:34,885

Probably it will be

766

00:37:34,885 --> 00:37:36,745

country like country

and collect.

767

00:37:36,745 --> 00:37:38,830

Now probably be divided.

768

00:37:38,830 --> 00:37:40,929

Repeat that because this

769

00:37:40,929 --> 00:37:42,745

is also important

for the future,

770

00:37:42,745 --> 00:37:43,899

but still I think.

771

00:37:43,899 --> 00:37:46,899

But finally,

finally, this is

772

00:37:46,899 --> 00:37:50,394

now this crucial

moment when Russia,

773

00:37:50,394 --> 00:37:54,085

in the brains of

intellectuals,

774

00:37:54,085 --> 00:37:58,245

could finally find itself.

775

00:37:58,245 --> 00:38:01,659

Not one if we speak

776

00:38:01,659 --> 00:38:06,389

about simple pupils,

so-called simple people.

777

00:38:06,389 --> 00:38:08,855

Then now I'm, I'm,

778

00:38:08,855 --> 00:38:11,809

I'm, I start to write

book, rational gift.

779

00:38:11,809 --> 00:38:13,729

Of course the basis S,

780

00:38:13,729 --> 00:38:15,109

You all know this is

781

00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:18,559

imitation of

Collier's book,

782

00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:21,799

German, German

guilty, which was

783

00:38:21,799 --> 00:38:25,520

published in those

46 after the war.

784

00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,020

And through.

785

00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:29,480

Karl Jaspers has a great

786

00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,410

existential

philosopher who never,

787

00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:36,530

never, never, never

come closer to Hitler.

788

00:38:36,530 --> 00:38:40,430

And then she starts

789

00:38:40,430 --> 00:38:44,854

to teach in the header

Edinburgh University.

790

00:38:44,854 --> 00:38:50,899

And to explain

to students why.

791

00:38:50,899 --> 00:38:52,729

In April we had

792

00:38:52,729 --> 00:38:55,249

one discourse and now

793

00:38:55,249 --> 00:38:56,990

they have built

into different.

794

00:38:56,990 --> 00:38:59,705

And that was a

crucial so momentum.

795

00:38:59,705 --> 00:39:06,304

And I will never read

him why he was sick.

796

00:39:06,304 --> 00:39:09,049

He could explain it to

797

00:39:09,049 --> 00:39:15,995

a vis a vis a vis

students that never is.

798

00:39:15,995 --> 00:39:20,299

There is a screen them.

799

00:39:20,299 --> 00:39:24,019

Then various

possibility to

800

00:39:24,019 --> 00:39:27,815

have to conserve

family values,

801

00:39:27,815 --> 00:39:30,980

then privacy, then a

lot of other tricks.

802

00:39:30,980 --> 00:39:33,499

I said, one day I

803

00:39:33,499 --> 00:39:36,260

come to Moscow University

after they had

804

00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:38,719

of points and it

will be far more

805

00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,735

difficult because

we still have this.

806

00:39:41,735 --> 00:39:50,285

Doesn't just start

with Hitler.

807

00:39:50,285 --> 00:39:54,269

They hit this yamaka,

808

00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,689

the speed of 5 m

and don't know it.

809

00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:04,115

At least 50.

810

00:40:04,115 --> 00:40:07,504

So we shall provide

different tools,

811

00:40:07,504 --> 00:40:09,605

different instruments,

812

00:40:09,605 --> 00:40:15,275

different scales

to go upstairs.

813

00:40:15,275 --> 00:40:20,644

And even with Asperger's,

814

00:40:20,644 --> 00:40:22,019

when he wrote his book,

815

00:40:22,019 --> 00:40:23,404

you know what

happened to him?

816

00:40:23,404 --> 00:40:25,889

He had to leave

the country

817

00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:28,369

after he supported

818

00:40:28,369 --> 00:40:31,880

this normal process

because Germany

819

00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,799

was angry about him and he

820

00:40:33,799 --> 00:40:36,155

went to bus system now.

821

00:40:36,155 --> 00:40:39,529

And he stayed there

when he died.

822

00:40:39,529 --> 00:40:44,209

His grave is 50 m from

823

00:40:44,209 --> 00:40:49,505

the German Northern 12.

824

00:40:49,505 --> 00:40:50,375

Yes.

825

00:40:50,375 --> 00:40:54,504

Only cell that

was, you know,

826

00:40:54,504 --> 00:41:01,805

that the Nazca

political things

827

00:41:01,805 --> 00:41:05,734

were banned in Germany

only in the 60s.

828

00:41:05,734 --> 00:41:08,749

Only in the sixth

vein before you

829

00:41:08,749 --> 00:41:12,679

could swastika where

you want to put it.

830

00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,185

So this is Germany,

831

00:41:15,185 --> 00:41:17,224

this is middle of Europe.

832

00:41:17,224 --> 00:41:24,634

It is in the so-called

American troops,

833

00:41:24,634 --> 00:41:28,999

british troops, french,

sorry to say soviet.

834

00:41:28,999 --> 00:41:33,650

Well, but still,

this is Germany,

835

00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:37,490

which couldn't find

its way to '60s.

836

00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:41,599

And now I live in

Germany and I have a lot

837

00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:45,620

of events and what was

good about Germany,

838

00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:47,389

but it never

really sure is

839

00:41:47,389 --> 00:41:49,639

some literature to house.

840

00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:52,569

And you could go in

the syringe, Germany,

841

00:41:52,569 --> 00:41:56,479

but they say,

Please come or.

842

00:41:56,850 --> 00:42:01,420

I said, what kind of

room and room for

843

00:42:01,420 --> 00:42:03,309

failure for people

who come there

844

00:42:03,309 --> 00:42:05,649

and people are

quite different.

845

00:42:05,649 --> 00:42:07,675

They're not

less, not more.

846

00:42:07,675 --> 00:42:11,079

This is how it happened,

847

00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:14,920

but for tickets,

848

00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,580

not standing by the

walls but chest up.

849

00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:22,479

Then you go to Frankfurt

and they call,

850

00:42:22,479 --> 00:42:24,954

and this will be 200.

851

00:42:24,954 --> 00:42:29,785

And then why? What for?

852

00:42:29,785 --> 00:42:38,730

Very strange. Now, in

853

00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:41,679

the eastern part of

Germany and Brandon,

854

00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,880

25 per cent words go to

855

00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,314

nailed fascist alternative

856

00:42:51,314 --> 00:42:55,035

and turned everything.

857

00:42:55,035 --> 00:42:57,465

And they told me,

858

00:42:57,465 --> 00:43:00,509

because I lived

during the zeros and

859

00:43:00,509 --> 00:43:04,079

the very nice Palace

next to Berlin.

860

00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:05,639

They were so generous.

861

00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:08,054

Just give my family.

862

00:43:08,054 --> 00:43:10,709

Oh, for the love of God.

863

00:43:10,709 --> 00:43:13,799

We spend it

wonderful months

864

00:43:13,799 --> 00:43:16,740

there that I wrote

865

00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:18,764

this book and so

on and so on.

866

00:43:18,764 --> 00:43:22,124

And they told me there,

but some villages,

867

00:43:22,124 --> 00:43:25,449

just 100 per cent,

868

00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:33,759

DDR, Soviet, ex-Soviet,

Germany, France.

869

00:43:34,130 --> 00:43:38,699

He'll say, I don't

commend it to you to say,

870

00:43:38,699 --> 00:43:41,415

then in, in, in Britain.

871

00:43:41,415 --> 00:43:43,845

And I have it,

we have COVID.

872

00:43:43,845 --> 00:43:46,950

But I figured the more,

far more terrible.

873

00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:49,109

What is this

quantity mu of

874

00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:51,150

stupidity on

875

00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:54,419

the male stupidity

is everywhere.

876

00:43:54,419 --> 00:43:56,459

It's all suits and he

877

00:43:56,459 --> 00:43:58,260

is the hero of

responding me of

878

00:43:58,260 --> 00:44:02,085

stupidity because

some people say he's,

879

00:44:02,085 --> 00:44:03,900

he's mad, he's not met.

880

00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,944

But he is I believe

believe me, I know him.

881

00:44:06,944 --> 00:44:10,919

He is stupid. Stupid.

882

00:44:10,919 --> 00:44:17,099

And you'll read it

in my sequence.

883

00:44:17,099 --> 00:44:19,739

But it was

saddened meetings

884

00:44:19,739 --> 00:44:21,030

with him because he

885

00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:25,840

wanted me to be his riser.

886

00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:30,719

And all this discussion.

887

00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,400

So just takeovers.

888

00:44:33,710 --> 00:44:40,679

Some musicians citizen who

889

00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:42,030

is his great Horace have

890

00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:43,919

billions of dollars and

891

00:44:43,919 --> 00:44:46,320

humans middle one.

But that's it.

892

00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,080

You know, if I

mentioned something,

893

00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,700

but if you write and

then you start to

894

00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:52,515

sell yourself that

to be a writer.

895

00:44:52,515 --> 00:44:55,499

So there is not noted,

896

00:44:55,499 --> 00:44:59,190

it's not the

deal, no money.

897

00:44:59,190 --> 00:45:02,384

So it's probability

to vote and

898

00:45:02,384 --> 00:45:09,420

join our Alibaba

companies, but not urgent.

899

00:45:09,420 --> 00:45:14,850

So finally, I think

that is our problem.

900

00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:18,389

This fundamental

stupidity coming from

901

00:45:18,389 --> 00:45:22,019

everywhere and

people read less.

902

00:45:22,019 --> 00:45:24,014

I don't speak about

your distillery,

903

00:45:24,014 --> 00:45:25,109

but still it's,

904

00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:26,640

even in Germany is

905

00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,650

not as good as

it was before.

906

00:45:28,650 --> 00:45:30,489

In France.

907

00:45:30,489 --> 00:45:32,460

In Germany were good,

908

00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:34,754

but because France from

909

00:45:34,754 --> 00:45:36,825

my childhood was

for surreal.

910

00:45:36,825 --> 00:45:38,445

My country.

911

00:45:38,445 --> 00:45:43,479

Just because I

I have family.

912

00:45:44,090 --> 00:45:47,655

My wife, my daughter, 17,

913

00:45:47,655 --> 00:45:50,790

and my little.it

will five.

914

00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:52,890

And so I just threw money

915

00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:54,750

for living in Germany.

916

00:45:54,750 --> 00:45:56,999

I can do it, but not

917

00:45:56,999 --> 00:46:00,480

so possible to

do it in France.

918

00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,085

So a static

fashion provenance

919

00:46:05,085 --> 00:46:07,455

with this liberalism.

920

00:46:07,455 --> 00:46:09,690

Liberals and probably say

921

00:46:09,690 --> 00:46:13,530

idealistically and

continue with pointing.

922

00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:17,549

And here's his

terrible, terrible,

923

00:46:17,549 --> 00:46:22,575

terrible for my country.

924

00:46:22,575 --> 00:46:25,095

Finally, we'll come to

925

00:46:25,095 --> 00:46:27,959

this stupidity

which could unite

926

00:46:27,959 --> 00:46:33,510

office fight against

stupidity property.

927

00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:36,554

So I know for main things

that you should do.

928

00:46:36,554 --> 00:46:39,705

Firstly, because

subconscious,

929

00:46:39,705 --> 00:46:41,399

to see stupidity,

930

00:46:41,399 --> 00:46:44,139

it's not politically

correct.

931

00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:48,975

So in this city

university session

932

00:46:48,975 --> 00:46:50,760

and talk about, well,

933

00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,480

I decided to have

seminar now in

934

00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,059

the Cadbury philosophy,

935

00:46:57,059 --> 00:46:59,040

philosophy of censorship.

936

00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,644

It's not about trash,

937

00:47:00,644 --> 00:47:05,399

about this taboo topics.

938

00:47:05,399 --> 00:47:08,925

This is also kind of

fight against impunity.

939

00:47:08,925 --> 00:47:10,665

Go great, Gopnik.

940

00:47:10,665 --> 00:47:13,229

Very cute Cauchy,

probably, yes.

941

00:47:13,229 --> 00:47:15,699

But still, of course,

942

00:47:15,790 --> 00:47:19,714

I would think would

one day it's necessary

943

00:47:19,714 --> 00:47:20,929

to to make

944

00:47:20,929 --> 00:47:23,780

a committee of

fighting institution.

945

00:47:23,780 --> 00:47:26,089

I don't know who join me,

946

00:47:26,089 --> 00:47:30,364

but I think that

probably it's a joke.

947

00:47:30,364 --> 00:47:32,445

But really I'm kidding,

but still I think,

948

00:47:32,445 --> 00:47:36,539

but don't keep

the stability,

949

00:47:36,539 --> 00:47:38,760

it doesn't kill me.

950

00:47:39,580 --> 00:47:44,629

And even in Brazil, look,

951

00:47:44,629 --> 00:47:47,209

in Brazil, I hit Start and

952

00:47:47,209 --> 00:47:50,104

book a presentation

in the urea.

953

00:47:50,104 --> 00:47:55,520

Urea is six and

still Russia console

954

00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,039

and said where two

people were to provoke.

955

00:48:01,310 --> 00:48:05,175

In my, my, my Brazil.

956

00:48:05,175 --> 00:48:10,950

Very nice lady,

publisher to be so,

957

00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:14,760

so white lake, lake,

958

00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,959

the snow in

Kilimanjaro, know that?

959

00:48:18,959 --> 00:48:20,849

I I didn't know

960

00:48:20,849 --> 00:48:22,904

what to do just to

help you because you

961

00:48:22,904 --> 00:48:24,959

should never heard

that could be

962

00:48:24,959 --> 00:48:27,345

such, such, such

aggression.

963

00:48:27,345 --> 00:48:30,720

Because everything

is squared.

964

00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,129

What inspired a lot of

965

00:48:32,129 --> 00:48:37,515

people get wonderfully

published.

966

00:48:37,515 --> 00:48:39,279

Then.

967

00:48:40,930 --> 00:48:45,185

It's this also

stupidity because

968

00:48:45,185 --> 00:48:46,924

they just bought more

969

00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,910

than without provocation.

970

00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:51,784

Nothing's happened to me,

971

00:48:51,784 --> 00:48:54,230

but still it is.

972

00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:55,699

But, you know, if,

973

00:48:55,699 --> 00:48:57,799

if we come from

beginning and

974

00:48:57,799 --> 00:49:00,185

some people said

in the beginning,

975

00:49:00,185 --> 00:49:02,509

which was far better.

976

00:49:02,509 --> 00:49:05,389

Let me tell you one story.

977

00:49:05,389 --> 00:49:07,354

We were searching.

978

00:49:07,354 --> 00:49:09,320

I know she was here.

979

00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:17,840

And always

believing that the

980

00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,859

other day we were

981

00:49:21,859 --> 00:49:29,325

the first victims

of Putin in 2002.

982

00:49:29,325 --> 00:49:34,499

So-called the guy was

who was responsible for

983

00:49:34,499 --> 00:49:43,110

his political side of it,

984

00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:45,540

eligible side

of putting his,

985

00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:49,544

he declared that

we are very,

986

00:49:49,544 --> 00:49:54,539

very bad writers who

are again Sasha.

987

00:49:54,539 --> 00:49:57,944

Sasha, why?

988

00:49:57,944 --> 00:50:01,259

We have to call it

though it was done.

989

00:50:01,259 --> 00:50:06,359

They opened. 40

Q was fortunate.

990

00:50:06,359 --> 00:50:07,799

You could count them with

991

00:50:07,799 --> 00:50:13,364

my deliberate and

receive the surface.

992

00:50:13,364 --> 00:50:19,125

On the bulk of it

will be still.

993

00:50:19,125 --> 00:50:28,199

This book is his book

994

00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:29,565

as well.

995

00:50:29,565 --> 00:50:30,510

Anyway.

996

00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:32,729

I'm seeing him his book.

997

00:50:32,729 --> 00:50:37,059

His book as

against Russia.

998

00:50:39,470 --> 00:50:44,610

Receive just

change your books.

999

00:50:44,610 --> 00:50:46,979

You could receive

Boolean or the steps

1000

00:50:46,979 --> 00:50:51,030

k equal to receive

a pumpkin.

1001

00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:53,159

But believing who was

1002

00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:55,709

younger than me and Sarah.

1003

00:50:55,709 --> 00:50:59,950

If you bring one book,

1004

00:51:01,420 --> 00:51:08,415

book, runs like this.

1005

00:51:08,415 --> 00:51:10,560

And then, and then we

1006

00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,779

brought this very

special people.

1007

00:51:12,779 --> 00:51:18,209

They brought it to

our doors, homes.

1008

00:51:18,209 --> 00:51:23,655

And so once leaving

1009

00:51:23,655 --> 00:51:26,619

open the door

and old books,

1010

00:51:27,170 --> 00:51:36,930

just to have

some sheep, they

1011

00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:39,234

brought these

things like in,

1012

00:51:39,234 --> 00:51:47,979

in, in, in prison,

various items.

1013

00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,420

Then I said, guys,

1014

00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:56,414

I will write to a little,

1015

00:51:56,414 --> 00:51:58,634

talk with him about that.

1016

00:51:58,634 --> 00:52:02,440

You will find this

lead everywhere.

1017

00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:07,350

And I had the

possibility to give

1018

00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:15,539

this letter because it

was still very own.

1019

00:52:15,539 --> 00:52:16,920

Who was a liberal?

1020

00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,044

He was his economy me go.

1021

00:52:21,044 --> 00:52:25,620

I knew, I knew we were

friends of arrows.

1022

00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:28,394

This letter saying

that, you know,

1023

00:52:28,394 --> 00:52:32,355

who later was just

on the level of,

1024

00:52:32,355 --> 00:52:35,280

you know, read

it or leave.

1025

00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,309

It means that it

was angry but

1026

00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:42,599

still it does not

so aggressive.

1027

00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,480

So I told him that this

is not your style.

1028

00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,059

The nicety that

also the book,

1029

00:52:48,059 --> 00:52:49,544

so risers and so on,

1030

00:52:49,544 --> 00:52:51,719

if he wants to

imitate them.

1031

00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,835

So we'll go ahead.

1032

00:52:53,835 --> 00:52:59,339

And then it was a real

drama. We afraid.

1033

00:52:59,339 --> 00:53:02,250

And this group of

1034

00:53:02,250 --> 00:53:06,300

people who were called

National means, ours.

1035

00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,819

They have this

special tissues

1036

00:53:08,819 --> 00:53:12,615

with poisons,

terrible face.

1037

00:53:12,615 --> 00:53:18,854

And they were 100,100

and worry-free.

1038

00:53:18,854 --> 00:53:23,774

And so I felt time

I left Japan.

1039

00:53:23,774 --> 00:53:27,915

Yes. And then I

then good news.

1040

00:53:27,915 --> 00:53:31,679

My rational and puts

it was about us

1041

00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:35,999

and urbanization can

just between them.

1042

00:53:35,999 --> 00:53:44,139

Between him and people.

1043

00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:49,529

Not but then this fine.

1044

00:53:49,529 --> 00:53:51,329

I'll tell him how can I

1045

00:53:51,329 --> 00:53:54,135

finished the base

data to help it?

1046

00:53:54,135 --> 00:53:57,435

Investigations and

the publisher radio,

1047

00:53:57,435 --> 00:54:01,320

sorrow can shoot

the breeze.

1048

00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:07,544

And then it was

five years old.

1049

00:54:07,544 --> 00:54:10,050

Tv channel code.

1050

00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:11,834

Dora culture.

1051

00:54:11,834 --> 00:54:14,685

And I hit my programs

there and it was

1052

00:54:14,685 --> 00:54:17,655

not so bad product

every, every week.

1053

00:54:17,655 --> 00:54:20,174

And so I was also invited.

1054

00:54:20,174 --> 00:54:21,824

The one, you see,

1055

00:54:21,824 --> 00:54:26,205

how liberal we

said we had this.

1056

00:54:26,205 --> 00:54:29,079

We were victims, victims,

1057

00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:30,615

but still I said

the program.

1058

00:54:30,615 --> 00:54:36,660

And so they invite

me also to go to

1059

00:54:36,660 --> 00:54:38,850

some teachers book

for the Jubilee

1060

00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:42,540

of five-years of theory,

1061

00:54:42,540 --> 00:54:44,204

a general good to us.

1062

00:54:44,204 --> 00:54:45,899

And we came there

and, you know,

1063

00:54:45,899 --> 00:54:47,294

how Russians could do it.

1064

00:54:47,294 --> 00:54:51,549

You know, that it was

a night excursion.

1065

00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:54,734

Candles in mind

that all this,

1066

00:54:54,734 --> 00:54:57,150

all this special ethics.

1067

00:54:57,150 --> 00:55:01,694

And then very late

in the night,

1068

00:55:01,694 --> 00:55:04,740

there was a big dinner at

1069

00:55:04,740 --> 00:55:10,725

the hotel where I

killed himself,

1070

00:55:10,725 --> 00:55:13,440

knows, many years ago.

1071

00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,999

So during this dinner,

1072

00:55:17,999 --> 00:55:21,309

suddenly Minister

of Culture

1073

00:55:22,220 --> 00:55:28,589

come up to me and

said Victor USE.

1074

00:55:28,589 --> 00:55:31,754

I said what? She said.

1075

00:55:31,754 --> 00:55:34,395

Putin asked me to come.

1076

00:55:34,395 --> 00:55:36,180

Do you know who I am?

1077

00:55:36,180 --> 00:55:37,739

I am just Minister

of college.

1078

00:55:37,739 --> 00:55:39,360

It means zero.

1079

00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,564

I never been in

his office just

1080

00:55:41,564 --> 00:55:44,414

by my cell phone in

the group of people.

1081

00:55:44,414 --> 00:55:46,260

And so he invited me to

1082

00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:48,780

come and he is sitting.

1083

00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:51,674

He is sitting and writing

something and not

1084

00:55:51,674 --> 00:55:55,649

just be sure we're

still very, very drunk.

1085

00:55:55,649 --> 00:55:57,699

That's where he pulled me

1086

00:55:58,490 --> 00:56:01,859

write something

and then hit.

1087

00:56:01,859 --> 00:56:04,530

And he was thinking

like a soldier

1088

00:56:04,530 --> 00:56:08,699

and research with

the minister.

1089

00:56:08,699 --> 00:56:11,414

Then he looked up

at me and say,

1090

00:56:11,414 --> 00:56:16,780

Misha, why do

sent to prison?

1091

00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:19,734

So who is illegal?

1092

00:56:19,734 --> 00:56:22,695

Me even allows

me to prison.

1093

00:56:22,695 --> 00:56:26,265

No neighbor was like, Wow.

1094

00:56:26,265 --> 00:56:30,900

Michelle Dawn center,

I just to prison.

1095

00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:32,324

Don't understand me.

1096

00:56:32,324 --> 00:56:33,779

Yes. Yes. Yes.

1097

00:56:33,779 --> 00:56:42,645

So go discourse 200002.

1098

00:56:42,645 --> 00:56:44,045

So you can understand,

1099

00:56:44,045 --> 00:56:45,785

death was the beginning,

1100

00:56:45,785 --> 00:56:51,179

the beginning with

this guy who was

1101

00:56:51,179 --> 00:56:54,090

the leader of

all this May of

1102

00:56:54,090 --> 00:56:58,710

fascist group, group

nationally hours.

1103

00:56:58,710 --> 00:57:02,009

He lives now and

early adult there.

1104

00:57:02,009 --> 00:57:03,689

During the festival, he

1105

00:57:03,689 --> 00:57:05,324

came up to me and said,

1106

00:57:05,324 --> 00:57:08,534

excuse me. Who you are.

1107

00:57:08,534 --> 00:57:10,829

Yes. It's me

Horgan, as always,

1108

00:57:10,829 --> 00:57:14,354

campaign against

you in 2002.

1109

00:57:14,354 --> 00:57:17,265

And I said, why

are you in Berlin?

1110

00:57:17,265 --> 00:57:20,109

I am fed up with rational.

1111

00:57:22,690 --> 00:57:25,250

If you have questions.

1112

00:57:25,250 --> 00:57:28,025

So thank you so much.

1113

00:57:28,025 --> 00:57:30,080

And I would ask you

to turn their hours

1114

00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,209

and maybe a wave

to those of

1115

00:57:32,209 --> 00:57:34,324

our listeners

chromosome and

1116

00:57:34,324 --> 00:57:38,525

your bags and say

hello to them,

1117

00:57:38,525 --> 00:57:40,864

and we'll be happy.

1118

00:57:40,864 --> 00:57:42,469

I prepared some questions.

1119

00:57:42,469 --> 00:57:43,879

There are so many

distinguished

1120

00:57:43,879 --> 00:57:46,115

people here in

the audience.

1121

00:57:46,115 --> 00:57:50,659

Yeah, I see. Yes,

there's sibling.

1122

00:57:50,659 --> 00:57:54,949

I have a question

that's about

1123

00:57:54,949 --> 00:58:00,750

your parallel

Russian fairy tales.

1124

00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,409

Fairy tales of all

people are very cruel.

1125

00:58:05,409 --> 00:58:07,245

I think it is because its

1126

00:58:07,245 --> 00:58:08,700

existence in Middle Ages,

1127

00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:10,455

this girl's fairy

tales accrual.

1128

00:58:10,455 --> 00:58:13,080

But some nations where

they go through like

1129

00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,730

a bourgeois and

capitalism's take

1130

00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:16,980

that existence is getting

better and better.

1131

00:58:16,980 --> 00:58:19,859

So often we get

these diversions.

1132

00:58:19,859 --> 00:58:21,119

But I think it's

1133

00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:22,500

because of Russian

existence,

1134

00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:25,004

so miserable

and desperate.

1135

00:58:25,004 --> 00:58:26,534

So what is the reason that

1136

00:58:26,534 --> 00:58:28,199

we never get rentals?

1137

00:58:28,199 --> 00:58:30,614

Epp, requirement

for empathy?

1138

00:58:30,614 --> 00:58:32,489

That is, the rule of

1139

00:58:32,489 --> 00:58:35,504

society in Europe

or anywhere else.

1140

00:58:35,504 --> 00:58:38,069

The question

for the answer

1141

00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:40,079

should be in two months,

1142

00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:43,889

you know, every day

if you want to know.

1143

00:58:43,889 --> 00:58:45,450

But it's really, it's

1144

00:58:45,450 --> 00:58:47,745

the main question

of Russian history.

1145

00:58:47,745 --> 00:58:50,849

Because we started

like, likes,

1146

00:58:50,849 --> 00:58:55,049

like a country which

was thrown by this,

1147

00:58:55,049 --> 00:58:58,890

go into WiiWare,

so miserable.

1148

00:58:58,890 --> 00:59:02,504

But we never set to

be a free nation.

1149

00:59:02,504 --> 00:59:06,285

And with that,

with Moscow,

1150

00:59:06,285 --> 00:59:09,750

Moscow kinda just imitate.

1151

00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:15,000

And people who again

was slaves. After that.

1152

00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,430

After many, many years,

1153

00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:20,759

Peter the Great started

to turn into Europe,

1154

00:59:20,759 --> 00:59:23,445

but he turned it

in a very Asian.

1155

00:59:23,445 --> 00:59:28,209

And it never will

start with B.

1156

00:59:28,430 --> 00:59:34,349

Country which would

get out of this.

1157

00:59:34,349 --> 00:59:37,859

Well, we just

put some extent,

1158

00:59:37,859 --> 00:59:39,915

some intellectuals exam or

1159

00:59:39,915 --> 00:59:41,789

science has some wonderful

1160

00:59:41,789 --> 00:59:42,839

people around sharing.

1161

00:59:42,839 --> 00:59:45,509

And we, we, we could save

1162

00:59:45,509 --> 00:59:48,899

a lot of very

interesting people.

1163

00:59:48,899 --> 00:59:50,910

It's not so, it

1164

00:59:50,910 --> 00:59:52,739

was not so terrible

to live in Russia.

1165

00:59:52,739 --> 00:59:53,669

People they walk.

1166

00:59:53,669 --> 00:59:57,074

So some extent

they get out

1167

00:59:57,074 --> 01:00:01,440

of this fairy tale

or even half,

1168

01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,059

or sometimes they

left and they left.

1169

01:00:06,059 --> 01:00:10,860

But still it was

not admitted.

1170

01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:18,344

We are in this,

this magic, right?

1171

01:00:18,344 --> 01:00:21,824

That there are a lot

of other nations or

1172

01:00:21,824 --> 01:00:23,129

people who live in

1173

01:00:23,129 --> 01:00:26,849

these problems sometimes

in Africa now.

1174

01:00:26,849 --> 01:00:29,774

But when you

read history of

1175

01:00:29,774 --> 01:00:33,704

some African

gardeners and Russia,

1176

01:00:33,704 --> 01:00:36,509

and sometimes that

to be parallel.

1177

01:00:36,509 --> 01:00:40,679

And this way they hit

me with my career,

1178

01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:43,319

which called

scrapie direction.

1179

01:00:43,319 --> 01:00:45,930

So it's got a

bigger brush tool.

1180

01:00:45,930 --> 01:00:48,935

It's also kind of

normal because this is

1181

01:00:48,935 --> 01:00:54,190

a history of

intellectual override.

1182

01:00:54,290 --> 01:00:57,240

Who, who

1183

01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,059

understood that

everything is sterile.

1184

01:01:02,570 --> 01:01:04,515

Fronds.

1185

01:01:04,515 --> 01:01:07,334

America, everything women,

1186

01:01:07,334 --> 01:01:10,634

men, children, old people.

1187

01:01:10,634 --> 01:01:13,169

But it was kind

of grotesque.

1188

01:01:13,169 --> 01:01:14,745

But when we wrote,

1189

01:01:14,745 --> 01:01:16,799

we read about a miracle

1190

01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:18,644

in France, we

believe the visa.

1191

01:01:18,644 --> 01:01:24,150

But when it's very

cool, Very cool.

1192

01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:25,379

It's even if it's

1193

01:01:25,379 --> 01:01:27,764

a three quarter,

That sounds.

1194

01:01:27,764 --> 01:01:30,554

And then say, Aha,

1195

01:01:30,554 --> 01:01:34,409

this is what you really

think about Russia,

1196

01:01:34,409 --> 01:01:38,969

but that and understand.

1197

01:01:38,969 --> 01:01:41,354

So as I told you,

1198

01:01:41,354 --> 01:01:43,679

we didn't have

a real history.

1199

01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:46,890

It's still one

we wanted to

1200

01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:48,299

have some that we grabbed

1201

01:01:48,299 --> 01:01:50,189

it from different prices.

1202

01:01:50,189 --> 01:01:52,950

But now we had

1203

01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:56,009

discovered

Hildegard CoreAudio

1204

01:01:56,009 --> 01:01:57,420

for some people.

1205

01:01:57,420 --> 01:02:01,019

But because this was,

1206

01:02:01,420 --> 01:02:04,349

the next question

is from Constantin,

1207

01:02:04,349 --> 01:02:10,664

but I would think about

the collaboration

1208

01:02:10,664 --> 01:02:14,310

of which he was

1209

01:02:14,310 --> 01:02:19,709

speaking from all

rational liberals.

1210

01:02:19,709 --> 01:02:23,970

He called Ukrainians

fascists.

1211

01:02:23,970 --> 01:02:29,969

And she crawled

Russian criminals

1212

01:02:29,969 --> 01:02:32,804

who are fighting

now in Ukraine.

1213

01:02:32,804 --> 01:02:35,130

He calls them our voice,

1214

01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:38,594

our booth, but

think about it.

1215

01:02:38,594 --> 01:02:41,279

Is it mistake or honestly,

1216

01:02:41,279 --> 01:02:43,065

I think the same

as you think.

1217

01:02:43,065 --> 01:02:47,170

So. Let's be honest.

1218

01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:53,775

I'm sorry, radicals or

you can agree with me.

1219

01:02:53,775 --> 01:02:56,760

Well, right, so

rational, right?

1220

01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,819

It could be radical.

1221

01:02:59,150 --> 01:03:01,709

It is beyond this

1222

01:03:01,709 --> 01:03:03,120

politically limitations

1223

01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,335

with rational writers,

1224

01:03:04,335 --> 01:03:06,149

who is the CEO of

students, kids,

1225

01:03:06,149 --> 01:03:08,160

radical, conservative.

1226

01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,870

Here's the

sheep, sometimes

1227

01:03:09,870 --> 01:03:11,250

in my hands and so on.

1228

01:03:11,250 --> 01:03:14,970

But he's ever

wants to read.

1229

01:03:14,970 --> 01:03:17,460

This happened in

my life once I

1230

01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:20,010

let it changed my life.

1231

01:03:20,010 --> 01:03:23,379

Which is not the

same scheme.

1232

01:03:24,070 --> 01:03:26,609

Jane, Yes.

1233

01:03:28,060 --> 01:03:30,020

Yes.

1234

01:03:30,020 --> 01:03:34,100

Here's we'll have

different definitions

1235

01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:39,154

of strategy.

1236

01:03:39,154 --> 01:03:42,990

No, no, but we'll

just say that

1237

01:03:43,150 --> 01:03:46,579

it's not gonna get

1238

01:03:46,579 --> 01:03:51,300

any more questions

from the audience.

1239

01:03:52,330 --> 01:03:57,209

Have any questions at

this point. Thank you.

1240

01:03:58,150 --> 01:04:02,039

I am so glad to

see that, please.

1241

01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:04,654

Thank you so much

for your comments.

1242

01:04:04,654 --> 01:04:05,995

Really enjoyed them.

1243

01:04:05,995 --> 01:04:10,229

I love, I love

the analogy.

1244

01:04:10,229 --> 01:04:12,165

Simply a comparison.

1245

01:04:12,165 --> 01:04:14,264

But it gets inspired

1246

01:04:14,264 --> 01:04:16,655

by I have a question

about that. Yes.

1247

01:04:16,655 --> 01:04:18,780

How do you reconcile?

1248

01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:22,155

Well, dressed

twice $10,000

1249

01:04:22,155 --> 01:04:24,090

when she sued Swiss watch,

1250

01:04:24,090 --> 01:04:25,200

looking at couples nodded,

1251

01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,235

his training suit is

press Alt key and,

1252

01:04:29,235 --> 01:04:31,080

and how, how do

1253

01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,759

you reconcile that the

image with the man?

1254

01:04:35,759 --> 01:04:38,529

How do you get rid of one?

1255

01:04:39,710 --> 01:04:41,279

Written down?

1256

01:04:41,279 --> 01:04:44,530

No problem, because

he is a ******.

1257

01:04:45,350 --> 01:04:51,879

Spatial, justice and

Gopi formulating drug.

1258

01:04:54,260 --> 01:04:57,809

They end up putting both

1259

01:04:57,809 --> 01:05:00,704

of them to the

great, great Gopnik.

1260

01:05:00,704 --> 01:05:04,079

I think that of

course it's for,

1261

01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:07,200

but if he just day

1262

01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,575

immediately

because he got to

1263

01:05:10,575 --> 01:05:14,099

my country and she does

1264

01:05:14,099 --> 01:05:17,250

a testable It's

a way to know

1265

01:05:17,250 --> 01:05:21,599

when we put him

on the moon.

1266

01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:24,044

We propose him

to go to moon.

1267

01:05:24,044 --> 01:05:27,309

Just not there.

1268

01:05:27,500 --> 01:05:30,450

But I think But still,

1269

01:05:30,450 --> 01:05:31,994

I want to repeat it.

1270

01:05:31,994 --> 01:05:36,430

Still, I believe

that to be kind of

1271

01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:44,129

moderate politicians

because a lot

1272

01:05:44,129 --> 01:05:45,615

of people are fed up

1273

01:05:45,615 --> 01:05:47,894

and not only politicians,

1274

01:05:47,894 --> 01:05:49,754

generals and sold because

1275

01:05:49,754 --> 01:05:53,145

this tension is

terrible and still

1276

01:05:53,145 --> 01:05:56,985

Ukraine is not a country

which is unknown

1277

01:05:56,985 --> 01:06:01,890

for all of us.

1278

01:06:01,890 --> 01:06:06,269

Friends in grid

and all of us.

1279

01:06:07,940 --> 01:06:12,165

You know, my first

wife, polish.

1280

01:06:12,165 --> 01:06:16,005

So I know your

operator bit by.

1281

01:06:16,005 --> 01:06:18,434

I spent two years

1282

01:06:18,434 --> 01:06:20,789

in my son lives

and pulling.

1283

01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:22,965

My second wave

is a gradient.

1284

01:06:22,965 --> 01:06:25,830

And now I have a goal of

1285

01:06:25,830 --> 01:06:28,680

17 and brain

vasculature lives.

1286

01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,539

I mean, my my third world

is through brushes.

1287

01:06:33,539 --> 01:06:37,030

So I'm slowly

moving to the east.

1288

01:06:38,270 --> 01:06:46,109

Moving. So, so

understanding change

1289

01:06:46,109 --> 01:06:47,369

and then you understand,

1290

01:06:47,369 --> 01:06:51,519

but you know, for answers,

1291

01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:57,585

of course we understand

each other perfectly.

1292

01:06:57,585 --> 01:07:02,534

French. In Berlin now,

1293

01:07:02,534 --> 01:07:05,624

everything is okay

and my family.

1294

01:07:05,624 --> 01:07:11,070

But just because we

were human beings,

1295

01:07:11,070 --> 01:07:16,154

It's difficult to say

what are some other?

1296

01:07:16,154 --> 01:07:18,885

Because, you know,

putting a sort of

1297

01:07:18,885 --> 01:07:24,059

human degradable

know, before the war.

1298

01:07:24,059 --> 01:07:26,294

Liberals just

open their mouth.

1299

01:07:26,294 --> 01:07:29,099

No, it's plus,

it's impossible,

1300

01:07:29,099 --> 01:07:30,660

it's impossible

to do like this.

1301

01:07:30,660 --> 01:07:33,630

And now we understand

1302

01:07:33,630 --> 01:07:39,585

that because

because because,

1303

01:07:39,585 --> 01:07:48,645

because she normally

would any sympathy for,

1304

01:07:48,645 --> 01:07:51,910

for, for, for human life.

1305

01:07:53,090 --> 01:07:59,130

And it is not by

chance come calming.

1306

01:07:59,130 --> 01:08:03,600

And that's why they

say that name.

1307

01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,094

Because they

didn't understand

1308

01:08:07,094 --> 01:08:09,420

what the luxury

because they,

1309

01:08:09,420 --> 01:08:12,285

they said but he is

1310

01:08:12,285 --> 01:08:17,219

nice KGB guy who's

safe their property

1311

01:08:17,219 --> 01:08:25,394

and you just yeah,

1312

01:08:25,394 --> 01:08:27,915

it's I believe still

1313

01:08:27,915 --> 01:08:29,550

Schindler orange nodes

1314

01:08:29,550 --> 01:08:30,630

and the Raj and that's,

1315

01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:32,219

I'm very surprised with

1316

01:08:32,219 --> 01:08:34,379

what the cost,

I don't know.

1317

01:08:34,379 --> 01:08:36,299

But the steel will

1318

01:08:36,299 --> 01:08:40,814

find possibilities

to get out of this.

1319

01:08:40,814 --> 01:08:43,200

Pete. About the two.

1320

01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,684

It will be a very

1321

01:08:44,684 --> 01:08:47,144

difficult thing

and of course,

1322

01:08:47,144 --> 01:08:51,914

we shouldn't do

it. Should do it.

1323

01:08:51,914 --> 01:08:53,535

I wouldn't help,

1324

01:08:53,535 --> 01:08:56,189

but just

understanding others,

1325

01:08:56,189 --> 01:08:59,249

but it will exit door.

1326

01:08:59,249 --> 01:09:03,435

Because as soon as

the war stopped.

1327

01:09:03,435 --> 01:09:06,450

Now, because some people

1328

01:09:06,450 --> 01:09:09,780

believe it goes too far.

1329

01:09:09,780 --> 01:09:14,609

Then we'll say it's

similar in it.

1330

01:09:14,609 --> 01:09:17,415

It, cilium skin will

be the landscape.

1331

01:09:17,415 --> 01:09:20,519

And the West will come

1332

01:09:20,519 --> 01:09:25,019

to all have putting

one more challenge.

1333

01:09:25,019 --> 01:09:28,680

And that will be

just terrible.

1334

01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,944

He'll be defeated

to Sammy's.

1335

01:09:30,944 --> 01:09:33,900

Of course they propose him

1336

01:09:33,900 --> 01:09:38,369

some kind of

some kind dog.

1337

01:09:38,369 --> 01:09:40,604

Let's see, corridor from

1338

01:09:40,604 --> 01:09:43,169

tug on rock to

Crimea and say,

1339

01:09:43,169 --> 01:09:44,940

yes, this is

not their land,

1340

01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:48,150

but it has no Awards.

1341

01:09:48,150 --> 01:09:50,684

Wow. I don't know.

1342

01:09:50,684 --> 01:09:52,019

I'm not sure, but still,

1343

01:09:52,019 --> 01:09:53,790

like I said, we'll

talk with him,

1344

01:09:53,790 --> 01:09:57,824

but he is

depicted as well.

1345

01:09:57,824 --> 01:10:02,220

But for Russia

to be disaster.

1346

01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:04,469

Because then the man,

1347

01:10:04,469 --> 01:10:07,200

and then it will

be exactly this

1348

01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,409

people who want more

or less liberal,

1349

01:10:10,409 --> 01:10:12,240

more or less europeans,

1350

01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:17,079

more or less open brain.

1351

01:10:17,150 --> 01:10:21,539

I know for a

moment and don't

1352

01:10:21,539 --> 01:10:26,319

see the solutions

but later to come.

1353

01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:29,909

Because what's

good about here,

1354

01:10:29,909 --> 01:10:32,055

but he doesn't

have any of those.

1355

01:10:32,055 --> 01:10:37,539

And let's say it's

impossible to know to do.

1356

01:10:37,550 --> 01:10:40,305

If you are not.

1357

01:10:40,305 --> 01:10:44,500

You understand something.

1358

01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,200

Thank you. And I

want to address

1359

01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,854

to our viewers online,

1360

01:10:51,854 --> 01:10:53,070

if you have questions,

1361

01:10:53,070 --> 01:10:54,869

please type them

into chat and we

1362

01:10:54,869 --> 01:10:57,029

have done just for

a few questions.

1363

01:10:57,029 --> 01:10:59,845

Are there any questions

in this audience?

1364

01:10:59,845 --> 01:11:01,429

Hold on.

1365

01:11:01,429 --> 01:11:06,829

To so let's say

we were to fall.

1366

01:11:06,829 --> 01:11:07,999

Do you think there's

1367

01:11:07,999 --> 01:11:09,410

a realistic

prospect the day

1368

01:11:09,410 --> 01:11:11,120

after for Russia to

1369

01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,355

actually achieve a

functioning democracy

1370

01:11:13,355 --> 01:11:16,085

without repeating in

the 1990s over again,

1371

01:11:16,085 --> 01:11:20,434

well, we would embed them.

1372

01:11:20,434 --> 01:11:23,600

So, so, and I believe that

1373

01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,200

still is the

elites, Rashomon,

1374

01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,120

it's a little bit fed up

1375

01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,774

with what's going on now,

1376

01:11:31,774 --> 01:11:33,979

will have this

possibility to

1377

01:11:33,979 --> 01:11:36,140

be more moderate fiercely.

1378

01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:41,760

And then we have,

I believe in it.

1379

01:11:42,770 --> 01:11:46,500

I don't think but

the queue name

1380

01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:49,979

someone like like like,

1381

01:11:49,979 --> 01:11:54,300

you know, New Paltz

1382

01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:57,374

and I don't see

such, such person.

1383

01:11:57,374 --> 01:12:00,989

And secondly, I

think they need to

1384

01:12:00,989 --> 01:12:06,930

support American

to be optimist,

1385

01:12:06,930 --> 01:12:09,660

let's say in this

way a little bit

1386

01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:18,340

of genius. Behind me.

1387

01:12:19,670 --> 01:12:21,524

How about one

more question?

1388

01:12:21,524 --> 01:12:23,654

Yeah, sure. Yeah.

1389

01:12:23,654 --> 01:12:25,500

So I was really

1390

01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:28,589

surprised when

beginning of the war,

1391

01:12:28,589 --> 01:12:30,719

russia started to

write letters to

1392

01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:33,900

KGB and reporting

misbehavior.

1393

01:12:33,900 --> 01:12:37,410

Several articles written

about me because I

1394

01:12:37,410 --> 01:12:39,869

was a lecturer in

1395

01:12:39,869 --> 01:12:41,774

mathematics to

Russia students.

1396

01:12:41,774 --> 01:12:44,805

And I was using buzzwords.

1397

01:12:44,805 --> 01:12:48,420

I was using a backlog

of Ukrainian flag.

1398

01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:49,560

And that was what I was

1399

01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,819

expelled from

Russian university,

1400

01:12:50,819 --> 01:12:51,959

so I cannot

teach students.

1401

01:12:51,959 --> 01:12:57,000

And so I was

really surprised

1402

01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,120

that people rush to write

1403

01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,250

those letters and

probably most letters

1404

01:13:02,250 --> 01:13:03,855

or even against you.

1405

01:13:03,855 --> 01:13:07,860

Why do you need why there

is a need to do it?

1406

01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:11,790

Well, first of all,

1407

01:13:11,790 --> 01:13:15,435

we know that what

it's told us

1408

01:13:15,435 --> 01:13:22,399

that 4 million for

denunciations,

1409

01:13:22,399 --> 01:13:25,484

nobody pushed

them to do that.

1410

01:13:25,484 --> 01:13:28,870

In such great numbers.

1411

01:13:29,150 --> 01:13:34,140

The relationship in

the fair or not.

1412

01:13:34,140 --> 01:13:38,804

So sometimes people want

1413

01:13:38,804 --> 01:13:42,344

to hurt other people.

1414

01:13:42,344 --> 01:13:47,009

We had a lot of

statistical problem

1415

01:13:47,009 --> 01:13:53,984

because we never accept

the real variation.

1416

01:13:53,984 --> 01:13:56,009

In human nature.

1417

01:13:56,009 --> 01:14:00,339

We always want to

liberate people.

1418

01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,780

Rationalization or to find

1419

01:14:03,780 --> 01:14:05,925

another way of developing.

1420

01:14:05,925 --> 01:14:08,714

But to say

propylene, what's,

1421

01:14:08,714 --> 01:14:15,420

who we are and why

we made mistakes.

1422

01:14:15,420 --> 01:14:19,590

We'd never, never,

never tried.

1423

01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:23,920

Very interesting,

neater effect.

1424

01:14:24,380 --> 01:14:27,930

Zara, who is a hero at

1425

01:14:27,930 --> 01:14:31,769

CD to further she said,

1426

01:14:31,769 --> 01:14:35,444

the drafts of the novel.

1427

01:14:35,444 --> 01:14:38,310

He said, human being

1428

01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:41,085

is good, conditions, bad.

1429

01:14:41,085 --> 01:14:44,850

And this is just

the flag of Libra.

1430

01:14:44,850 --> 01:14:49,319

It's been cut

off the novel.

1431

01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:51,539

But still it's everywhere.

1432

01:14:51,539 --> 01:14:53,279

And nobody had

international

1433

01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:55,094

see if condition.

1434

01:14:55,094 --> 01:14:57,960

But why human beings

1435

01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,819

who create these

conditions.

1436

01:15:03,410 --> 01:15:05,519

The situation I repeat,

1437

01:15:05,519 --> 01:15:08,984

was so terrible

all the time

1438

01:15:08,984 --> 01:15:10,739

that they said that just

1439

01:15:10,739 --> 01:15:12,540

to create a new here,

1440

01:15:12,540 --> 01:15:13,889

it was great.

1441

01:15:13,889 --> 01:15:16,035

The Russian people.

1442

01:15:16,035 --> 01:15:20,549

I wouldn't say that I

hate everything with it

1443

01:15:20,549 --> 01:15:25,095

connected to his

political culture.

1444

01:15:25,095 --> 01:15:26,850

Sometimes if you go

1445

01:15:26,850 --> 01:15:28,949

hunting with them

or going fishing,

1446

01:15:28,949 --> 01:15:31,319

or if you discuss,

you understand,

1447

01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:32,579

but he had plenty of

1448

01:15:32,579 --> 01:15:36,929

imagination plate

in our culture,

1449

01:15:36,929 --> 01:15:38,700

there's plenty in vision.

1450

01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:40,695

Sometimes. This is

1451

01:15:40,695 --> 01:15:42,420

not very human

imagination,

1452

01:15:42,420 --> 01:15:44,700

but still, do you

know when you

1453

01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:48,640

say where threesome

imaging imagination.

1454

01:15:49,210 --> 01:15:52,429

Just as it is and

1455

01:15:52,429 --> 01:15:54,935

it's connected through

it. I don't know.

1456

01:15:54,935 --> 01:15:56,885

Some things we're not

1457

01:15:56,885 --> 01:16:02,879

not politically

terrible vendors.

1458

01:16:03,820 --> 01:16:13,549

But when it comes to

distances, well, nobody,

1459

01:16:13,549 --> 01:16:17,585

nobody wanted to accepted

know people who are

1460

01:16:17,585 --> 01:16:21,529

interested in

international kilo

1461

01:16:21,529 --> 01:16:23,360

of build up their jobs.

1462

01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,689

Just stole BullGuard

Gabriel glaucoma out

1463

01:16:26,689 --> 01:16:30,389

that they didn't

want to accept.

1464

01:16:30,389 --> 01:16:38,070

That. I came also

some confidence.

1465

01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:41,969

Confidence. And

Michael Murphy, who,

1466

01:16:41,969 --> 01:16:47,805

who, who is more for

future of the body.

1467

01:16:47,805 --> 01:16:53,729

She told me this the

most disappointing face,

1468

01:16:53,729 --> 01:16:57,825

what happened in my

life since 60 years?

1469

01:16:57,825 --> 01:17:01,725

Not for me.

1470

01:17:01,725 --> 01:17:05,504

But still I was a little

bit prepper was this

1471

01:17:05,504 --> 01:17:09,360

is the book version.

1472

01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,650

So this, this way

1473

01:17:13,650 --> 01:17:19,050

fighting for the

book and for me,

1474

01:17:19,050 --> 01:17:22,260

it's also a

shocking situation.

1475

01:17:22,260 --> 01:17:26,050

I wouldn't say, Oh,

no, I'm right now.

1476

01:17:26,060 --> 01:17:29,260

But I think that

1477

01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,500

it's not that everything

1478

01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:40,409

is a question from

the gentleman.

1479

01:17:40,409 --> 01:17:42,630

So we're talking

about putting,

1480

01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:44,444

everybody's talking

about Putin.

1481

01:17:44,444 --> 01:17:45,719

How would you rate

1482

01:17:45,719 --> 01:17:48,459

this works like

collectiveness.

1483

01:17:49,070 --> 01:17:52,020

Negative selection

for many,

1484

01:17:52,020 --> 01:17:53,850

many years, give them

1485

01:17:53,850 --> 01:17:56,760

a different transit

CRFs in this country.

1486

01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,700

Well, I believe that

1487

01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:02,219

there is such a

collective in

1488

01:18:02,219 --> 01:18:03,989

my country and

it's connected

1489

01:18:03,989 --> 01:18:07,844

with various of people.

1490

01:18:07,844 --> 01:18:14,039

Not all sometimes.

But you know,

1491

01:18:14,039 --> 01:18:15,480

it doesn't mean

that not all of

1492

01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:18,705

these because

1493

01:18:18,705 --> 01:18:21,044

Gopnik is already

mastered situation.

1494

01:18:21,044 --> 01:18:28,019

No. So the the

wishes of sometimes

1495

01:18:28,019 --> 01:18:31,530

are mostly male

information just on

1496

01:18:31,530 --> 01:18:35,955

the level of the step.

1497

01:18:35,955 --> 01:18:41,160

And I think that count

1498

01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:47,744

of real cause of

power everywhere.

1499

01:18:47,744 --> 01:18:51,270

Just to be like

1500

01:18:51,270 --> 01:18:53,879

him because he

has a big Gopnik.

1501

01:18:53,879 --> 01:18:57,315

They wouldn't say that.

1502

01:18:57,315 --> 01:19:00,704

But he is one of there.

1503

01:19:00,704 --> 01:19:05,159

Yeah, here's one study

from the beginning

1504

01:19:05,159 --> 01:19:10,259

and the great

gifts of them.

1505

01:19:10,259 --> 01:19:12,154

But it's not necessary.

1506

01:19:12,154 --> 01:19:14,114

The Gopnik of all rush.

1507

01:19:14,114 --> 01:19:15,479

You could be Gopnik of

1508

01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:20,184

your original copy

of your apartment.

1509

01:19:20,184 --> 01:19:22,665

So everything

coming for them.

1510

01:19:22,665 --> 01:19:25,679

I must tell you

with anyone in

1511

01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:29,440

the female

atmosphere also,

1512

01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:33,314

you could find this

so-called folders.

1513

01:19:33,314 --> 01:19:38,999

So it's very deeply

in my country,

1514

01:19:38,999 --> 01:19:42,120

very deeply constancy

1515

01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,264

and has another question.

1516

01:19:44,264 --> 01:19:51,990

In the world,

shouldn't. I would like

1517

01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:54,810

to understand your opinion

1518

01:19:54,810 --> 01:19:58,170

about station is very

1519

01:19:58,170 --> 01:20:02,174

similar to what

happened in 1917.

1520

01:20:02,174 --> 01:20:10,590

And it can be different.

1521

01:20:10,590 --> 01:20:14,339

Actual sedation

compared to 17.

1522

01:20:14,339 --> 01:20:17,320

Do expect to come

back to Russia?

1523

01:20:19,220 --> 01:20:20,670

Yeah.

1524

01:20:20,670 --> 01:20:26,440

Well well, I would like

to come into Russia.

1525

01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:33,989

I'm not so naive

like the writers.

1526

01:20:33,989 --> 01:20:37,365

Just immigration

who went every,

1527

01:20:37,365 --> 01:20:41,164

every week to buy

a Paris newspaper,

1528

01:20:41,164 --> 01:20:44,459

always seem to find

1529

01:20:44,459 --> 01:20:47,579

that this is the end

of the Soviet Union,

1530

01:20:47,579 --> 01:20:49,650

you know, where everybody

1531

01:20:49,650 --> 01:20:51,570

believed that Lenin died

1532

01:20:51,570 --> 01:20:55,859

and that will be

something else and so on.

1533

01:20:55,859 --> 01:20:58,335

No progress made.

1534

01:20:58,335 --> 01:21:00,420

But still, of course,

1535

01:21:00,420 --> 01:21:03,750

it's my wish to come

there because you know,

1536

01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:06,869

what, what is it about?

1537

01:21:06,869 --> 01:21:09,345

It's about language,

of course,

1538

01:21:09,345 --> 01:21:12,119

for me and

rational number,

1539

01:21:12,119 --> 01:21:19,319

which is just

like good wine.

1540

01:21:19,319 --> 01:21:23,654

Very good work. No, I

can't live without it.

1541

01:21:23,654 --> 01:21:27,869

But just to say

that to happen

1542

01:21:27,869 --> 01:21:31,500

tomorrow. I mean, sure.

1543

01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:33,239

But my wife's already

1544

01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:35,264

said that the

amount of data,

1545

01:21:35,264 --> 01:21:38,084

we could go bad.

1546

01:21:38,084 --> 01:21:42,450

But still, I would

prefer Mariana.

1547

01:21:42,450 --> 01:21:45,600

Study French,

English, German,

1548

01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,075

and gentlemen,

you in France.

1549

01:21:48,075 --> 01:21:53,610

Thomas Mann. I'm going

1550

01:21:53,610 --> 01:21:56,144

to see you all tomorrow.

1551

01:21:56,144 --> 01:21:58,530

She didn't want to he said

1552

01:21:58,530 --> 01:22:02,740

the best people is guilty.

1553

01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:07,050

Just read it to you

just because of

1554

01:22:07,050 --> 01:22:10,410

this reading. His

book crushing.

1555

01:22:10,410 --> 01:22:12,180

And so I may I

1556

01:22:12,180 --> 01:22:16,244

think it's complicated but

1557

01:22:16,244 --> 01:22:19,769

still when heated the

problem with backyard,

1558

01:22:19,769 --> 01:22:22,829

you know, but, but the

1559

01:22:22,829 --> 01:22:25,890

finally, finally,

of course,

1560

01:22:25,890 --> 01:22:29,190

not so many gym and do

1561

01:22:29,190 --> 01:22:37,604

my own United States

1562

01:22:37,604 --> 01:22:42,399

or event, Argentina.

1563

01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:46,155

But still I don't

think we should

1564

01:22:46,155 --> 01:22:50,039

finish this

mystical thing.

1565

01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:52,410

Because I believe that

1566

01:22:52,410 --> 01:22:54,389

it's better to analyze.

1567

01:22:54,389 --> 01:22:55,619

In the book about

1568

01:22:55,619 --> 01:22:59,594

the situation here

in United States.

1569

01:22:59,594 --> 01:23:02,519

I'll try to do

it in Germany.

1570

01:23:02,519 --> 01:23:05,759

Thinking about

what could be

1571

01:23:05,759 --> 01:23:08,760

possible to do with

1572

01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:14,325

this organism could show

what should be done.

1573

01:23:14,325 --> 01:23:20,114

Also. This right,

1574

01:23:20,114 --> 01:23:21,750

I don't want all of us

1575

01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:24,459

to be totally depressed.

1576

01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:29,490

You know, when I

wrote this book,

1577

01:23:29,490 --> 01:23:31,004

in particular

visual brushing.

1578

01:23:31,004 --> 01:23:35,504

So one came to my mind

1579

01:23:35,504 --> 01:23:41,250

because we say national

with hope in Russia.

1580

01:23:41,250 --> 01:23:43,840

Guys, the last


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